Nu Metal

LOLPOCALYPSE · 12-21-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami

Yeah, my problem is that if I ever start liking a band, that means they now have at least one fan, and therefore to mainstream for me.

I also think Slipknot are pretty mainstream, "Iowa" got to number 3 on the Billboard and number 1 in the UK albums charts. Sold more than 1,000,000 copies in the US alone.

Mainstream in terms of sales perhaps, but not in terms of quality.

The Beatles sold quite a few albums but you don't see people criticizing them for that now do you?

Salami · 12-21-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE

The Beatles sold quite a few albums but you don't see people criticizing them for that now do you?

But the Beatles are certainly mainstream! Look at all the critical acclaim they get! Rolling stone placed them as the number one "best artist of all time".

LOLPOCALYPSE · 12-21-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami

But the Beatles are certainly mainstream! Look at all the critical acclaim they get! Rolling stone placed them as the number one "best artist of all time".

Oh I know. Of course The Beatles are mainstream. I was just saying that being mainstream doesn't directly correlate to the quality of the artist. Mainstream bands can be good too, the Beatles and Slipknot have shown that.

Salami · 12-21-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE

Oh I know. Of course The Beatles are mainstream. I was just saying that being mainstream doesn't directly correlate to the quality of the artist. Mainstream bands can be good too, the Beatles and Slipknot have shown that.

And the opposite is equally true, Coldplay being one example...

I was really just trying to talk with someone who thought Slipknot was good because they were "the only band who haven't sold themselves to mainstream", which is wrong on two levels: my neighbour's garage band hasn't sold themselves to mainstream either, but they aren't good by any stretch of the imagination, and I'm sure that "not being mainstream" is a pretty feeble requirement for being a "good" band.

Howard the Duck · 12-22-2011, 05:59 AM

i like Slipknot just fine

they might not be "good" from an objective vantage point, but they're fun

Kip1985 · 12-23-2011, 08:16 AM

I might be shooting in the dark here, but a few months ago I bought an album from a band called Nataz called "Lost". I purchased it on eBay because the description said something about these guys sounding like Korn and Tool. It sounds like neither (well, on one song the bridge sounds almost exactly like Korn's "Clown"). Does anyone know of this band? I've looked for information, but I can't find a thing. Also, no songs exist on Youtube and the like, so I cannot post what they even sound like. Anyone have a clue?

Howard the Duck · 12-24-2011, 02:45 AM

^^I can't offer any help on that, sorry

jerryanddrum · 05-29-2012, 06:10 AM

I'm still a big fan of all these bands. Since many years. They were great and they are great. They just change over the years. Obviously, bands include human beings who change like us. Some people don't get it, which is strange. What do I think the future of it is? Djent is nu metal. Lot of people (especially guitarists) are saying "djent is not a genre". Well, it is, because if you say "djent" you already have in mind a particular style of playing as well as some bands. Periphery you can easy consider as nu metal. When I was younger, I always thought you can not come out with anything new anymore. And then Tool came out. After Tool I had the same feeling, that nothing else can be done. Until I discovered Meshuggah. What's next? We will see in a few years.

jerryanddrum · 05-29-2012, 06:12 AM

Forgot to mention trance metal. Bands like Dead By April, Silent Descent and Stalked By Scarlet are getting bigger and bigger.

Howard the Duck · 05-29-2012, 06:24 AM

i hardly think anybody deserves to be labelled a "metalhead" if they don't at least like "some" nu-metal

12-23-2011, 08:16 AM	#386 (permalink)
Kip1985 Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 94	I might be shooting in the dark here, but a few months ago I bought an album from a band called Nataz called "Lost". I purchased it on eBay because the description said something about these guys sounding like Korn and Tool. It sounds like neither (well, on one song the bridge sounds almost exactly like Korn's "Clown"). Does anyone know of this band? I've looked for information, but I can't find a thing. Also, no songs exist on Youtube and the like, so I cannot post what they even sound like. Anyone have a clue?

05-29-2012, 06:10 AM	#388 (permalink)
jerryanddrum Groupie Join Date: May 2012 Location: London Posts: 23	I'm still a big fan of all these bands. Since many years. They were great and they are great. They just change over the years. Obviously, bands include human beings who change like us. Some people don't get it, which is strange. What do I think the future of it is? Djent is nu metal. Lot of people (especially guitarists) are saying "djent is not a genre". Well, it is, because if you say "djent" you already have in mind a particular style of playing as well as some bands. Periphery you can easy consider as nu metal. When I was younger, I always thought you can not come out with anything new anymore. And then Tool came out. After Tool I had the same feeling, that nothing else can be done. Until I discovered Meshuggah. What's next? We will see in a few years.

05-29-2012, 06:12 AM	#389 (permalink)
jerryanddrum Groupie Join Date: May 2012 Location: London Posts: 23	Forgot to mention trance metal. Bands like Dead By April, Silent Descent and Stalked By Scarlet are getting bigger and bigger.