Nu Metal

Metal Connoisseur · 09-02-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Well, Katatonia started as doom metal, but now they're sort of like...doom rock? I don't know but they're hard to classify.

I'd agree with that categorization. Obviously they aren't true doom metal anymore but they still have their heavy moments in their new stuff. Idk about symphonic metal as someone else mentioned earlier...no cheesy studio violins and ridiculous power metal vocals to be heard in Katatonia.

LOLPOCALYPSE · 09-03-2011, 07:25 PM

I disagree. Even their newest album is too heavy to be considered rock. The riffs still sound unmistakeably metal to me. Either way I don't really care. They are still a great band

Lord Dweedle · 09-05-2011, 08:47 PM

Nu Metal is ok, not all of its great but groups like Limp Bizkit & Rage against the machine are ok, not something i'd buy studio albums for though, to me they are more of a greatest hits type genre.

Necromancer · 09-06-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Dweedle

Nu Metal is ok, not all of its great but groups like Limp Bizkit & Rage against the machine are ok, not something i'd buy studio albums for though, to me they are more of a greatest hits type genre.

I'm usually not a genre Nazi, but I think the nu-metal genre just has too many different styles of rock categorized within the genre itself. A lot of the bands are more heavy metal or hard rock orientated musically, while others are influenced Metal/Rock with hip-hop and Rap. (nu-metal categorization is too versatile)

BastardofYoung · 09-06-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

I'm usually not a genre Nazi, but I think the nu-metal genre just has too many different styles of rock categorized within the genre itself. A lot of the bands are more heavy metal or hard rock orientated musically, while others are influenced Metal/Rock with hip-hop and Rap. (nu-metal categorization is too versatile)

Not really, out of all metal sub-genres Nu-Metal is one of the least diversified, hence why I think it also gets a lot more hate. Extreme Metal is more varied and has a lot more going on for it. Death Metal, Black Metal, Doom Metal... so much variations and that is why it is easier to appreciate for me, because it spawned many more styles from them, while Nu-Metal never really evolved.

Necromancer · 09-06-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

Not really, out of all metal sub-genres Nu-Metal is one of the least diversified, hence why I think it also gets a lot more hate. Extreme Metal is more varied and has a lot more going on for it. Death Metal, Black Metal, Doom Metal... so much variations and that is why it is easier to appreciate for me, because it spawned many more styles from them, while Nu-Metal never really evolved.

I see where your coming from and I agree, its only.. I'm not familiar with all the different types of metal sub-genres you've mentioned. There's a lot of metal I might be missing out on, I am sure of that but, there just doesn't seem to be enough time to spare listening to new music. Especially if I'm really not into the genre in the first place.

Unknown Soldier · 09-06-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

I see where your coming from and I agree, its only.. I'm not familiar with all the different types of metal sub-genres you've mentioned. There's a lot of metal I might be missing out on, I am sure of that but, there just doesn't seem to be enough time to spare listening to new music. Especially if I'm really not into the genre in the first place.

Nu metal was just really a fad and no real evolution of the genre took place. Most of the first wave bands by their 3rd and 4th albums were putting out a more alternative metal sound anyway. The Deftones were the perfect example of this.

BastardofYoung · 09-06-2011, 01:33 PM

Yeah, or going back to old styles. Soulfly eventually became more Thrash Metal, as did Machine Head after they experimented with Nu-Metal for a while, Fear Factory as well.

Many of the bands in the style dropped it after it came to an end in about 2002.

Unknown Soldier · 09-06-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

Yeah, or going back to old styles. Soulfly eventually became more Thrash Metal, as did Machine Head after they experimented with Nu-Metal for a while, Fear Factory as well.

Many of the bands in the style dropped it after it came to an end in about 2002.

All those bands you`ve mentioned just adopted the style for a couple of albums and that was it. In hindsight Nu Metal can be held in the same esteem as hair metal, two metal genres without hardly any evolution and just churning out the same style and both sub-genres are looked down on by most metal devotees. To find the good albums in both these sub-genres you have to look deep and in Nu-Metals case, its just a case of looking at the the debut albums by the main bands, as it was mostly downhill for most of them quite quickly. As much as I trash hair metal I`d actually say if I was stuck on a desert island and had to chose between a bunch of hair metal and Nu-Metal cds I`d pick the hair metal ones.

BastardofYoung · 09-06-2011, 01:50 PM

haha. I do not know... depends on the hair metal...

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LOLPOCALYPSE Aryan Wonder Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 445	I disagree. Even their newest album is too heavy to be considered rock. The riffs still sound unmistakeably metal to me. Either way I don't really care. They are still a great band

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Lord Dweedle Music Addict Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 127	Nu Metal is ok, not all of its great but groups like Limp Bizkit & Rage against the machine are ok, not something i'd buy studio albums for though, to me they are more of a greatest hits type genre.