Nu Metal - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > Rock & Metal
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-26-2011, 04:42 PM   #121 (permalink)
A.B.N.
 
djchameleon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: NY baby
Posts: 11,451
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier View Post
My opinion of Disturbed is largely based on the first two albums (only two which I`ve heard) and I thought were pretty dire, especially the singing! If they went through some drastic improvement for the later albums, like Avenged Sevenfold did, I might like them a bit more.
You haven't listened to Ten Thousand Fists and Indestructible? If you haven't I feel like you should but then again if singing is the main thing that turns you off from them I wouldn't bother.

I love the way that the singer sings.

It is syncopated like a drum beat and it's ****ing awesome imo.
__________________
Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RoxyRollah View Post
IMO I don't know jack-**** though so don't listen to me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle View Post
The problem is that most police officers in America are psychopaths.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord View Post
You're a terrible dictionary.
djchameleon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2011, 04:43 PM   #122 (permalink)
Live by the Sword
 
Howard the Duck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Posts: 9,075
Default

^^I'm really more likely to listen to Seether for that kinda stuff.
Howard the Duck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2011, 06:10 PM   #123 (permalink)
Aryan Wonder
 
LOLPOCALYPSE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 445
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier View Post
My opinion of Disturbed is largely based on the first two albums (only two which I`ve heard) and I thought were pretty dire, especially the singing! If they went through some drastic improvement for the later albums, like Avenged Sevenfold did, I might like them a bit more.
There isn't much singing to be had with album 1, but I'm surprised you didn't like the singing in album 2. David's crooning on the song "Awaken" is probably my favorite in the Disturbed discography (and maybe my favorite song by them period). In recent albums David has turned to much more conventional singing, and he is very good at it (see "The Night"). The rhythmic singing makes fewer and fewer appearances album to album, but Dave's trademark enunciation remains. Guitar solos and general improvement from the rest of the band are the only instrumental changes. The band has showed maturation as well (much like A7X). The lyrics in album 4 and 5 leave much to be desired, however. If you didn't like the 2nd album (assuming you've heard more than "Liberate") than you probably don't like Disturbed. I was just curious on your reasoning since you have an opinion I actually respect.
LOLPOCALYPSE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2011, 01:32 AM   #124 (permalink)
Horribly Creative
 
Unknown Soldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: London, The Big Smoke
Posts: 8,265
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE View Post
There isn't much singing to be had with album 1, but I'm surprised you didn't like the singing in album 2. David's crooning on the song "Awaken" is probably my favorite in the Disturbed discography (and maybe my favorite song by them period). In recent albums David has turned to much more conventional singing, and he is very good at it (see "The Night"). The rhythmic singing makes fewer and fewer appearances album to album, but Dave's trademark enunciation remains. Guitar solos and general improvement from the rest of the band are the only instrumental changes. The band has showed maturation as well (much like A7X). The lyrics in album 4 and 5 leave much to be desired, however. If you didn't like the 2nd album (assuming you've heard more than "Liberate") than you probably don't like Disturbed. I was just curious on your reasoning since you have an opinion I actually respect.
Since a number of people on here, are suggesting that I should listen to Disturbed again........I`ll do it. Its probably justifiable that I do, as I last listened to the stuff a number of years ago and maybe I`m out of touch with what they really sound like.

I`ll listen and give my feedback.
Unknown Soldier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2011, 03:10 PM   #125 (permalink)
Horribly Creative
 
Unknown Soldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: London, The Big Smoke
Posts: 8,265
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by djchameleon View Post
You haven't listened to Ten Thousand Fists and Indestructible? If you haven't I feel like you should but then again if singing is the main thing that turns you off from them I wouldn't bother.

I love the way that the singer sings.

It is syncopated like a drum beat and it's ****ing awesome imo.
If you want to hear a metal singer with a syncopated drum beat type voice, none come much better than Jens Kidman of Meshuggah........he puts David to shame!

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE View Post
There isn't much singing to be had with album 1, but I'm surprised you didn't like the singing in album 2. David's crooning on the song "Awaken" is probably my favorite in the Disturbed discography (and maybe my favorite song by them period). In recent albums David has turned to much more conventional singing, and he is very good at it (see "The Night"). The rhythmic singing makes fewer and fewer appearances album to album, but Dave's trademark enunciation remains. Guitar solos and general improvement from the rest of the band are the only instrumental changes. The band has showed maturation as well (much like A7X). The lyrics in album 4 and 5 leave much to be desired, however. If you didn't like the 2nd album (assuming you've heard more than "Liberate") than you probably don't like Disturbed. I was just curious on your reasoning since you have an opinion I actually respect.
I listened to the first three albums and HELL!!! if this passes as metal then anything can! the first two albums were virtually unlistenable and the third marginally better. This is mainstream metal for a young audience or for people that don`t really like metal.

The singer is obviously no Bruce ****inson or Rob Halford who he is desperately trying to copy and in my opinion he`s definately not a metal singer. The rest of the band seemed very average in their ability as well.

Would I say this group were any better than Linkin Park?.........definitely not!
Unknown Soldier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2011, 06:08 PM   #126 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: North East England
Posts: 72
Default

remember-opinions vary.i still like limp bizkit, which will probably make me an object of ridicule.i even like a bit of coal chamber, which will no doubt make me an even bigger object of ridicule.
i like disturbed, although i often wonder how they managed to get so popular.decent but average in my humble opinion.
GERD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 10:12 AM   #127 (permalink)
Aryan Wonder
 
LOLPOCALYPSE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 445
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier View Post
If you want to hear a metal singer with a syncopated drum beat type voice, none come much better than Jens Kidman of Meshuggah........he puts David to shame!

I listened to the first three albums and HELL!!! if this passes as metal then anything can! the first two albums were virtually unlistenable and the third marginally better. This is mainstream metal for a young audience or for people that don`t really like metal.

The singer is obviously no Bruce ****inson or Rob Halford who he is desperately trying to copy and in my opinion he`s definately not a metal singer. The rest of the band seemed very average in their ability as well.

Would I say this group were any better than Linkin Park?.........definitely not!
Uh....ok. I guess you don't like Disturbed. Harsh, but I understand. I guess I fit into the "young audience" category because I like metal (unless you can convince me that In Flames, Dark Tranquillity, 5FDP, Slipknot, Lamb of God, Parkway Drive, Killswitch Engage, Devildriver, Hatebreed, Soilwork, All that Remains, As I Lay Dying, and dozens more in my library are not metal). The notion that Linkin Park is better than Disturbed is completely ridiculous in my mind. If Disturbed is hardly metal at all (heavy, not particularly, but is it hard rock? NO) than what in God's name is Linkin Park? Their heaviest album was probably Hybird Theory, which is rap/rock at best. Their most recent album could be confused with a U2 or Neon Trees album. Disturbed may be mainstream, but that shouldn't trigger the Nickelback stereotype. Honestly I expected more of a legitimate criticism from you rather than saying it is "unlistenable". What could possibly be such a turn off?

Last edited by LOLPOCALYPSE; 04-29-2011 at 10:17 AM.
LOLPOCALYPSE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 12:31 PM   #128 (permalink)
Horribly Creative
 
Unknown Soldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: London, The Big Smoke
Posts: 8,265
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE View Post
Uh....ok. I guess you don't like Disturbed. Harsh, but I understand. I guess I fit into the "young audience" category because I like metal (unless you can convince me that In Flames, Dark Tranquillity, 5FDP, Slipknot, Lamb of God, Parkway Drive, Killswitch Engage, Devildriver, Hatebreed, Soilwork, All that Remains, As I Lay Dying, and dozens more in my library are not metal). The notion that Linkin Park is better than Disturbed is completely ridiculous in my mind. If Disturbed is hardly metal at all (heavy, not particularly, but is it hard rock? NO) than what in God's name is Linkin Park? Their heaviest album was probably Hybird Theory, which is rap/rock at best. Their most recent album could be confused with a U2 or Neon Trees album. Disturbed may be mainstream, but that shouldn't trigger the Nickelback stereotype. Honestly I expected more of a legitimate criticism from you rather than saying it is "unlistenable". What could possibly be such a turn off?
80% of the bands that you`ve mentioned are metalcore and are certainly not representative of metal and most are bad to average bands. Of the other bands that you`ve mentioned, Lamb of God are one of the great metal bands around and imo the Pantera of the 00`s with their groove sound. In Flames used to be very good and Dark Tranquillity have remained consistently good.

I didn`t say Disturbed were not metal, just that they are a poor excuse for metal. They are like a watered down alcoholic drink, so that kids can drink it. Linkin Park are equally bad, the point I was making, is that its sad when these bands are seen as being representative of metal especially when the genre has somewhere in the region of 20-30 different sub-genres.

The main turn off was the singing and the singing is probably the dominant aspect of the group. As you said on another thread, music is subjective and so is my opinion here.

I do find if strange, that somebody that has shown an appreciation of a unique band like Voivod on another thread, also finds a band like Disturbed to be talented and interesting!!!
Unknown Soldier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 12:53 PM   #129 (permalink)
Franchise Player
 
Metal Connoisseur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 539
Default

Of those 80% mentioned, who is the worst of that bunch and why?
Metal Connoisseur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 01:32 PM   #130 (permalink)
Horribly Creative
 
Unknown Soldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: London, The Big Smoke
Posts: 8,265
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Metal Connoisseur View Post
Of those 80% mentioned, who is the worst of that bunch and why?
Of the other bands that were mentioned:
Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, As I Lay Dying, Hatebreed, Parkway Drive are all that`s bad about metalcore. Most people into metal bands from the 70`s through to the 90`s would probably see metalcore as the weakest sub genre to emerge band for band.

Devildriver and Five Finger Death Punch are just inferior to Lamb of God and are just not in the same league.

Soilwork are one of the weaker Swedish melodic death metal bands around

Slipknot I don`t mind at all.

If there are any albums by these bands, that you really feel I should listen to........point them out.
Unknown Soldier is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.