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View Poll Results: best grunge albums
Pearl Jam "Ten" 2 13.33%
Nirvana "Nevermind" 6 40.00%
Alice in Chains "Dirt" 2 13.33%
Afghan Whigs "Gentlemen" 1 6.67%
Mudhoney "Superfuzz Bugmuff" 0 0%
Soundgarden "Superunknown" 3 20.00%
Bush "Sixteen Stone" 1 6.67%
Stone Temple Pilots "Core" 0 0%
Silverchair "Frogstomp" 0 0%
Screaming Trees "Clairvoyance" 0 0%
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Grunge was just a word Johnathan Poneman used to market his label Sub Pop Records and the bands on it. He got it from a Lester Bangs article. You can use grunge to describe just a handful of records released on Sub Pop in the late '80s, records by bands like Mudhoney, Nirvana, Tad and so on.

It doesnt really mean anything though, it was just a phrase used to shift product product for a few years about 20 years ago. Nothing more.
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Wait. Didn't Mark Arm come up with the name grunge to label this new genre. I heard that when he was in Green River he said it as a joke but the name stuck.
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Wait. Didn't Mark Arm come up with the name grunge to label this new genre. I heard that when he was in Green River he said it as a joke but the name stuck.
It basically depends on what you read. It is true to say though that Poneman consciously used it as a marketing term. Apparently his thinking was that if you could get people to trust a label enough, they would buy anything that the label puts out as long as theres a certain consistency of style. Obviously Soundgarden, Nirvana and Mudhoney have very little in common other than the fact that they used the basic garage rock/punk rock setup of guitar-bass-drums-vocals and lots of distortion so in order to create the illussion of stylistic consistency he used the deliberately vague term grunge.

The term grunge comes from a Lester Bangs article about a Count Five album which, if memory serves correct, had a very muddy and indistinct sound because of all the distortion and cheapness of the recording sessions. Distortion and rough recording quality were basically the primary characteristics of a lot of those early Sub Pop records, regardless of who the band was. They served their purpose of fitting the labels identity. The whole point of Sub Pop in the beginning was for the label to bigger than its artists.

In some ways, Poneman is a great American raconteur, a great people manipulator, but he didnt have the business sense to go along with. If not for Nevermind Sub Pop would have gone under years ago.

ACTUALLY: I just fact checked and it was Bruce Pavitt, not Jonathan Poneman, who said all that stuff.
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:19 AM   #5 (permalink)
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there are some cool ones i would recommend their are alot of the grrl bands than bands like Second hand Piracy a modern praise of Nirvana

and grunge is a genre label/genre same thing
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there are some cool ones i would recommend their are alot of the grrl bands than bands like Second hand Piracy a modern praise of Nirvana
"There are alot of the grrl band than bands like Second Hand Piracy a modern praise of Nirvana."

What exactly is it that youre trying to tell us?
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'99% of riot grrl is absolute trash' is what i got from her statement
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'99% of riot grrl is absolute trash' is what i got from her statement
If you managed to divine something from a cryptic statement like that you should have a bash at reading this.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
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CBS promoted nirvana, aint for revolution its just for cash.
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Rimbaud's awesome.
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