The Official Grunge Thread

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by Snickers

If that's your reasoning, then your previous statement

doesn't hold.
Is classic rock a trend, then?
I understand that some music can be classified as a trend, but in your statement you said "It was a trend", implying it's completely dead.

I agree with your second sentence but feel it was unnecessary in this thread, the point of this thread was not to try and debate the "Seattle Sound" and explain how there are different forms of music that come out of Seattle.

The point of the thread was to ask the "Grunge Doctor" about the "scene", and what a mediocre point it is.

You're not one to preaching about the point of this thread seeing as my post was directed as him and you replied to it.

And he called it the seattle sound and I questioned it.

And grunge was just as much a trend as a style of music, models were wearing flannel down the runway. Something can be more then one thing you know.

[Blain]

Dude, wtf? I find it funny that somone from Michigan is arguing about "Seattle sound" with a kid who is from Seattle.

[Trauma]

Originally Posted by Crowquill

You're not one to preaching about the point of this thread seeing as my post was directed as him and you replied to it.

And he called it the seattle sound and I questioned it.

And grunge was just as much a trend as a style of music, models were wearing flannel down the runway. Something can be more then one thing you know.

I replied to your post because you were 'amped' on 'dumping' his opinion.
I understand why you disagree with the "Seattle Sound" and I also agree that grunge was just as much a trend as a style of music, just so long as you're saying that it was also a style of music.

Originally Posted by Blainka

Dude, wtf? I find it funny that somone from Michigan is arguing about "Seattle sound" with a kid who is from Seattle.

Can you not have an opinion about 8 mile if you don't live near me?

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by Snickers

I replied to your post because you were 'amped' on 'dumping' his opinion.
I understand why you disagree with the "Seattle Sound" and I also agree that grunge was just as much a trend as a style of music, just so long as you're saying that it was also a style of music.

I've been saying that.

Originally Posted by Snickers

Can you not have an opinion about 8 mile if you don't live near me?

I think hes more saying someone who lives in seattle and is involved in the music scene would have a more reliable opinion on the "seattle sound".

[Trauma]

Originally Posted by Crowquill

I've been saying that.

Well then you didn't articulate your opinion well enough.
I took it you disregarded grunge as a form of music completely.

Originally Posted by Crowquill

I think hes more saying someone who lives in seattle and is involved in the music scene would have a more reliable opinion on the "seattle sound".

Maybe.
"dude,wtf."

Okay.

[Merkaba]

Originally Posted by gottaSCREM

I've been a fan of the Seattle Sound for awhile. I have heard of and studied next to all of the Grunge bands of that era and even in the present, so if anyone has any questions about the scene just ask the Grunge Doctor.

Well, since we're here, what did you think of Blood Circus?

Oh and how do you rate the band called Sweet Water? Early, early, mid 80's (I think) grunge.

[Rainard Jalen]

Originally Posted by Crowquill

I'm tired of the seattle sound being called grunge, for one if you knew anything about seattle you would know the current sound is that spazzy hardcore blood brothers, red light sting thing n00b.

Also grunge isn't a genre, it was a trend. Seriously most 'grunge' bands have nothing in common except seattle, the 90s, and flannel.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

You can reach this conclusion simply by taking the "big 4" themselves. You don't have to dig any deeper than that, for heaven's sake!

Pearl Jam's sound is more reminiscent of old school, classic rock than anything the other big grunge acts came up with.

Nirvana were the almost weird misfits of the movement, their sound being arguably closer to punk than anything in the Seattle alt rock scene.

As for Soundgarden and Alice In Chains, then much of their material would be better termed "metal". They had a distinctly darker, heavier, metallic sound.

At any rate, the four bands don't really have any particular "trademark" sound in common. And neither does the grunge label.

Even if one tries (as many do) to come up with some characteristic elements of grunge music, I then guarantee that you'll find that Pearl Jam, at least, don't fit it.

[swim]

Grunge died 10 years ago when all the good post-grunge bands went away but, if you, gotta, insist otherwise a list of bands who have put out grunge albums within the past year would nice.

And yes it's hardly a genre for lack of common thread other than dirty sound. It's more of a recording style.

[tdoc210]

grunge was around in 1986, think green river.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

The whole grunge thing to me was just one of the worst musical movements ever and showed up everything that is bad about the music industry.
Which of course to me is the biggest irony of all seeing as though we`re constantly told Nirvana 'Broke the inderground' and 'changed the whole of music'.
For a genre that took about 10/12 years to die of you`d expect more than 2 bands of any merit to come from it (Soundgarden & Nirvana) As for the rest of them. Alice In Chains just wrote MTV friendly angst rock with a couple of ballads to get more airplay , Pearl Jam were just some dull stadium rock band who just happened to be from the right city at the right time who just had the foresight to namecheck the likes of The Dead Boys & Neil Young rather than Led Zeppelin.Mudhoney spent their whole career milking every last drop of credibility from the one decent song they wrote (Touch Me I`m Sick), as for the rest , well they were just major label puppets signed to get a quick payoff from Nirvana's success.
As for the legacy of grunge and they breaking of the underground , well where is it?
As someone who actually listened to independent music in the mid - late 90s I didn`t see an awful lot of bands I liked suddenly getting any exposure. All I saw was a couple of hundred Nirvana clones.The legacy of grunge is hundreds of grunge lite bands making naff middle of the road staduim rock appearing on MTV over & over again , I would name names but everybody knows who i`m talking about here. between 1998 - 2002 you couldn`t move for all this crap. Meanwhile the 'real' underground stayed exactly that.Bands like Pavement , Slint , Mogwai , Thee Headcoats , Smog and many others who I consider to be the true bands who influenced modern underground music didn`t benefit from Nirvana's success and the whole grunge movement whatsoever.

The whole thing was a big con by record companies to try & tap into the 'alternative' music fan.They were going for the anti establishment dollar , and by God did people fall for it in their millions.