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Avenged Bullet 03-27-2009 05:52 AM

Rock/Metal negative effects
 
So Im doing this thesis on whether or not rock/metal music has a negative effects on its listeners and/or society. Now I lsten to rock and metal so I dont think it has a negative effect but from the research that I've done a lot of people seem to think that it does. I was wondering if I could get your opinion if you think rock/metal have a negative effect and/or why people think that.

The Unfan 03-27-2009 05:56 AM

Negative is subjective, so yes, sometimes, depending on who you are percieving what effect.

Metal Thrashing Mad 03-27-2009 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Avenged Bullet (Post 623318)
So Im doing this thesis on whether or not rock/metal music has a negative effects on its listeners and/or society. Now I lsten to rock and metal so I dont think it has a negative effect but from the research that I've done a lot of people seem to think that it does. I was wondering if I could get your opinion if you think rock/metal have a negative effect and/or why people think that.


For me personally no.. buut i s'pose it kinda goes down to the genre and stuff like more towards the gothic/hardcore side of metal/rock i can see people getting effected my the music if they get too much into it yehh...

Just really depends on the persons personality id say

Guybrush 03-27-2009 08:01 AM

No. Where musical becomes political or life-changing is usually with younger people and they latch on to stuff that expresses their views, their pain etc. I think people get frustrated, then express frustration through music, not vice versa. In other words, music is not what causes that frustration, it just vents it.

Although there are exceptions to every rule, that's my general view.

Other than that, rock and metal are extremely general descriptions of music. If I listen to Deep Purple or Satyricon one day, I don't think it has a harmful effect.

dac 03-27-2009 08:17 AM

Religious music has a negative effect on society. So does some rock and roll. See: Limp Bizkit.

Guybrush 03-27-2009 08:23 AM

Those bands were birthed by society ;)

Bashing them is like treating a symptom rather than the disease.

edit :

Like certain symptoms, I agree they do cause disgust, nausea, pain and other negative effects, though.

koerni 03-27-2009 08:42 AM

some say that if you play rock/metal song to the plants, they'll grow not too good but I never try it myself :-)

Guybrush 03-27-2009 08:53 AM

On the show mythbusters, they tried playing different genres of music to plants growing under the same conditions. The metal plants were the ones that grew the most ..

I don't really think that means metal is good for plants, but I think it might indicate it doesn't matter. :p

Music is supposed to significantly decrease aggressive behaviour of chimpanzees in a lab behaviour, but I'm not sure what the genre studied was. There's an article on it here. My girlfriend who took a lab animal course claimed that rats responded positively to metal music, but I don't have a source to back it up!

pahuuuta 03-27-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Avenged Bullet (Post 623318)
So Im doing this thesis on whether or not rock/metal music has a negative effects on its listeners and/or society. Now I lsten to rock and metal so I dont think it has a negative effect but from the research that I've done a lot of people seem to think that it does. I was wondering if I could get your opinion if you think rock/metal have a negative effect and/or why people think that.

it depends on the person and how they are. .

Antonio 03-27-2009 05:53 PM

only negative effect is getting the SHIT rocked out of you!

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-27-2009 05:57 PM

People still buy albums by the Red Hot Chilli Peppers.

If that isn't a negative effect from hearing music I don't know what is.

Nickvana 03-27-2009 08:42 PM

No form of music has a negative effect on people. Rock/Metal music is just blamed a lot because of the subject matter some bands have, like Slayer, Marylin Manson, etc. The negativity comes from within a person, not the type of music they listen too.

Avenged Bullet 03-30-2009 03:40 PM

Glad this is getting posts and thanks for your opinions but I do agree with you guys..it has to do with the person not the music. But there are people who do think that music is to blame. But still thanks for giving your opinions.

mr dave 03-30-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Avenged Bullet (Post 625507)
Glad this is getting posts and thanks for your opinions but I do agree with you guys..it has to do with the person not the music. But there are people who do think that music is to blame. But still thanks for giving your opinions.

there will always be people who look for an arbitrary source of blame because they fear taking independent responsibility for their own beliefs.

Antonio 03-30-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 625591)
there will always be people who look for an arbitrary source of blame because they fear taking independent responsibility for their own beliefs.

SOOOO true

DMBassDude 03-30-2009 08:30 PM

LOL i'm a metal head. I heard that when they had mice listen to it they freakin' ate eachother!!! that is TOO COOL!!!!

Guybrush 03-31-2009 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DMBassDude (Post 625696)
LOL i'm a metal head. I heard that when they had mice listen to it they freakin' ate eachother!!! that is TOO COOL!!!!

It's also not true :p

Freebase Dali 03-31-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 625591)
there will always be people who look for an arbitrary source of blame because they fear taking independent responsibility for their own beliefs.

Exaaaactly.
I think it's the same as parents blaming violent video games for their child's violent tendencies in order to remain in denial of the fact that they didn't exercise good parenting.

crash_override 03-31-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 626427)
Exaaaactly.
I think it's the same as parents blaming violent video games for their child's violent tendencies in order to remain in denial of the fact that they didn't exercise good parenting.

It basically boils down to parents and religious organizations outsourcing their guilt and responsibility. It's so much easier for people to point a finger rather than look in the mirror.

Comus 03-31-2009 05:14 PM

crash override basically hitting the nail on the head there. For me it just makes me calmer, the more brutal the music the calmer I get.

crash_override 03-31-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 626461)
crash override basically hitting the nail on the head there. For me it just makes me calmer, the more brutal the music the calmer I get.

I think im the same way, I mean no matter how bad my day was, it nice to know someone is angrier than you.

GuitarBizarre 03-31-2009 05:53 PM

From the standpoint of an A Level in Media, I would say this boils down to the opposition between the hypodermic model of the media, and a concept called preferred readings.

The first, treats the media as if it directly influences the thoughts and attitudes of the viewer/reader/listener

The second, implies that the viewer/reader/listener will consume a media text and then process the information and ideas contained within, accepting or rejecting those pieces of information or those ideas, based on their own preconcieved notions of the world around them.


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