Mr. Bungle? Meshuggah? Avant-Garde Metal! (psychedelic, albums, member, title)

The Prophet · 03-16-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

we're going to have to agree to disagree but where you present valid reasons for your opinions i don't think it's going to be an issue. then again i'm torn between 'angel dust' and 'album of the year' when it comes to FNM.

like janzoon i prefer 'California' over everything else released by bungle. i don't see it as so much of a pop album but their chaos was applied to a different level. with DV the chaos is applied to each song, you never know where they're going or how long they're going for.

on the other hand California's tracks are more refined and cohesive but you never know what the next one is going to be like. when you look at the album as a whole the collection of its songs shows the chaos of the band at work.

i don't mind clones and worshippers but ultimately they sound weak to my ears since they're forever trying to sound like someone else and never actually doing their own thing.

Might I recommend checking out Shaolin Death Squad then, for while their Patton love is evident (especially in the vocals) they are most certainly doing their own thing.

I can understand people having trouble with Mr Bungle, like most of the 'genre' it is an aquired taste for the most part, one that tends to attract the truly eclectic fanbase.

jackhammer · 03-17-2009, 10:32 AM

Maudlin Of The Well definitely need a mention in here. I think they are truly experimental in regards to the progression in the music. What they play is not neccessarily outlandish and it is easy on the ear. However the arrangements and juxtaposition of genres are fully realised and are not 'cobbled' together for the sake of being different.

Violent & Funky · 03-17-2009, 04:47 PM

Trey Spruance!

Oh, and I would probably put a lot of Les Claypool's side projects and solo work into this category as well...

jackhammer · 03-17-2009, 05:45 PM

I would hardly call Sausage Avant garde to be honest.

Violent & Funky · 03-17-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I would hardly call Sausage Avant garde to be honest.

Okay, well not all of it. You don't have to be a smart ass though, because you know what I meant...

**Janszoon** · 03-17-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

Okay, well not all of it. You don't have to be a smart ass though, because you know what I meant...

Which of his projects would you consider avant-metal though? Not Oysterhead, not The Les Claypool Frog Brigade...

Violent & Funky · 03-17-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Which of his projects would you consider avant-metal though? Not Oysterhead, not The Les Claypool Frog Brigade...

I guess I would put both in that group, but maybe I'm not familiar enough with this genre. I only have a lot of experience with Bungle, and I hear many similarities. His last two solo projects are certainly experimental in my eyes...

**Janszoon** · 03-17-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

I guess I would put both in that group, but maybe I'm not familiar enough with this genre. I only have a lot of experience with Bungle, and I hear many similarities. His last two solo projects are certainly experimental in my eyes...

Honestly there's not much Bungle I'd consider avant-metal either.

SATCHMO · 03-17-2009, 09:18 PM

Oysterhead is definitely not metal, but it does have a dark quality to it and its pretty avant guard so I would say it fits in, oddly, with everything else. Its a worthy suggestion.

PinkCigarette · 03-18-2009, 02:25 PM

I just listened to Mr.Bungle's 'California' yesterday. I haven't listened to it for a while now. Brought back some good memories.

03-17-2009, 10:32 AM	#32 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Maudlin Of The Well definitely need a mention in here. I think they are truly experimental in regards to the progression in the music. What they play is not neccessarily outlandish and it is easy on the ear. However the arrangements and juxtaposition of genres are fully realised and are not 'cobbled' together for the sake of being different. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

03-17-2009, 05:45 PM	#34 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	I would hardly call Sausage Avant garde to be honest. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

03-18-2009, 02:25 PM	#40 (permalink)
PinkCigarette Chase for 28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 349	I just listened to Mr.Bungle's 'California' yesterday. I haven't listened to it for a while now. Brought back some good memories. __________________

03-17-2009, 04:47 PM	#33 (permalink)
Violent & Funky FUNky Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 2,482	Trey Spruance! Oh, and I would probably put a lot of Les Claypool's side projects and solo work into this category as well...

03-17-2009, 09:18 PM	#39 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	Oysterhead is definitely not metal, but it does have a dark quality to it and its pretty avant guard so I would say it fits in, oddly, with everything else. Its a worthy suggestion.