Metallica

Guybrush · 03-16-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pahuuuta

are you being serious right now, name 5 songs you think are metal on that album

Easy. Track 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.

Now you tell me where the blues is on the Black Album.

pahuuuta · 03-16-2009, 09:37 AM

do you even know what songs they are.

Mojo · 03-16-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by toretorden

I don't know load/reload that well, but I would definetly say that Black Album is a heavy metal album. Hard rock it ain't, that's for sure.

Depends what you mean by hard rock. If you're thinking along of the lines of Aerosmith, AC/DC, Motley Crue etc then obviously it doesnt go hand in hand with anything like that.

The Black Album was though, the beginning of the departure from the thrash metal orientated Metallica into more generic and mainstream rock with the likes of Nothing Else Matters and The Unforgiven etc.

Guybrush · 03-16-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pahuuuta

do you even know what songs they are.

Yes, I do. I wrote "track 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5" to emphasize that it doesn't really matter much which you pick.

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Depends what you mean by hard rock.

By hard rock, I mean "hard rock", not something I made up myself.

Read this and see if you still think that it describes the Black Album very well :

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Originally Posted by wikipedia

Hard rock is strongly influenced by blues music; the most frequently used scale in hard rock is the pentatonic, which is a typical blues scale.[1] Unlike traditional rock and roll (which takes elements of the "old" blues), hard rock incorporates elements of "British blues", a style of blues played with more modern instruments such as electric guitars, drums, keyboards and electric bass. A notable departure from traditional blues forms is that hard rock is seldom restricted to the I, IV, and V chords prevalent in twelve or sixteen bar blues, but includes other chords, typically major chords rooted on tones of the minor scale.

.. which is why I asked pahuuuta to point out the blues in Metallica.

pahuuuta · 03-16-2009, 09:45 AM

wikipedia is a moron and doesnt know jack ****

Guybrush · 03-16-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pahuuuta

wikipedia is a moron and doesnt know jack ****

Good riposte .. Oh wait, no it's not.

Don't say that it's hard rock when you don't even know what hard rock is.

Mojo · 03-16-2009, 10:15 AM

Thats why I butted in, I had a feeling you were referring to the genre while pahuuuta was more just looking for something to describe the album. Hard rock is a terrible name for a genre to be fair as just by name alone you could throw so much music under that umbrella.

Anyway, yes The Black Album isnt Hard-rock like the bands I mentioned before are Hard-rock but it was the start of the transition into a new direction for Metallica. It was eased in, I think there are a few tracks on there that are still quite heavy but its a rock record.

thisWARisours · 03-16-2009, 11:30 AM

It's heavy metal. How are you going to say it's not...when Metallica played a big part in defining what heavy metal is.

Just cause times changes doesn't make it non-metal.

Metallica will always be (with the exception of Load and ReLoad) 100% metal.

Mojo · 03-16-2009, 04:02 PM

So just because times change doesnt make Metallica non metal, but also at the same time Load and Reload arent metal? That doesnt make sense.

**Janszoon** · 03-16-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thisWARisours

Metallica will always be (with the exception of Load and ReLoad) 100% metal.

Even if they make a folk album?

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Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	Thats why I butted in, I had a feeling you were referring to the genre while pahuuuta was more just looking for something to describe the album. Hard rock is a terrible name for a genre to be fair as just by name alone you could throw so much music under that umbrella. Anyway, yes The Black Album isnt Hard-rock like the bands I mentioned before are Hard-rock but it was the start of the transition into a new direction for Metallica. It was eased in, I think there are a few tracks on there that are still quite heavy but its a rock record. __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

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Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	So just because times change doesnt make Metallica non metal, but also at the same time Load and Reload arent metal? That doesnt make sense. __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust