What is rock? What is metal?

jbc · 12-18-2008, 06:40 PM

So what then is rock and and pop? I like discussion questions like this trying to get a handle on illusive questions.

jackhammer · 12-18-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jbc

So what then is rock and and pop? I like discussion questions like this trying to get a handle on illusive questions.

What do you think it is?

Merkaba · 06-13-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jbc

So what then is rock and and pop? I like discussion questions like this trying to get a handle on illusive questions.

Pop, the word, is short for...?
Rock can be pop.

And to be fair, aside from the origins, metal is simply the darker side of rock. Hence the headbangers couldn't ever like something like The White Stripes, because TWS have yet to barb wire a lamb to a crucifix.

crash_override · 06-13-2009, 04:09 PM

Rock:

Metal:

Dr. Psycho · 12-18-2008, 06:55 PM

if you listen to the music you should be able to understand it.

MakeitLegit · 12-19-2008, 12:19 PM

The truth is there are too many sub categories. Many bands cross over themselves.

For example...is "We're Not Gonna Take it" rock or metal?

My deciding factor is: If older folks tap their feet it's rock. If they look at me like I'm the devil himself it's heavy metal. And it rules.

**Janszoon** · 12-19-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MakeitLegit

The truth is there are too many sub categories. Many bands cross over themselves.

For example...is "We're Not Gonna Take it" rock or metal?

My deciding factor is: If older folks tap their feet it's rock. If they look at me like I'm the devil himself it's heavy metal. And it rules.

What about old metal heads?

MakeitLegit · 12-19-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

What about old metal heads?

Ah. A curve ball!

Old Metalheads are so cool they like both....metal is still #1 to them, though. See what happens when you make fun of Motorhead in front of them. It gets bloody.

jackhammer · 12-19-2008, 03:05 PM

I'm an old metal head but it's not #1 for me anymore.

Furious Pudding · 06-13-2009, 03:23 PM

It all depends on what you yourself think what metal is. And what it boils down to is what started metal. Its the bands like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, and of course Black Sabbath. While nowadays they aren't really considered metal. But they were. And as you keep going forward in time you can see what has evolved from those bands. Those bands all developed from blues and classical. And you cans still see all of those elements in todays metal. To me personally it has to be bleusy to be metal. I think for it to be metal is has to have elements of everything previous pioneers have done to pave the way for metal. Metal is a direct descendant of blues in my opinion. And from that developed great bands such as the previously mentioned. And from that came great bands like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden etc. Then thrash metal came thanks to the likes of Metallica. It all have evolved and does sound alot differant from back in the day. But remaining the same roots has made metal what it today.

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MakeitLegit Groupie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 36	The truth is there are too many sub categories. Many bands cross over themselves. For example...is "We're Not Gonna Take it" rock or metal? My deciding factor is: If older folks tap their feet it's rock. If they look at me like I'm the devil himself it's heavy metal. And it rules.

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Furious Pudding Groupie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1	It all depends on what you yourself think what metal is. And what it boils down to is what started metal. Its the bands like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, and of course Black Sabbath. While nowadays they aren't really considered metal. But they were. And as you keep going forward in time you can see what has evolved from those bands. Those bands all developed from blues and classical. And you cans still see all of those elements in todays metal. To me personally it has to be bleusy to be metal. I think for it to be metal is has to have elements of everything previous pioneers have done to pave the way for metal. Metal is a direct descendant of blues in my opinion. And from that developed great bands such as the previously mentioned. And from that came great bands like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden etc. Then thrash metal came thanks to the likes of Metallica. It all have evolved and does sound alot differant from back in the day. But remaining the same roots has made metal what it today.