Meshuggah! (hardcore, metal, metallica, career, solo)

jackhammer · 11-05-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonoid

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Hmm, not really. "Elastic" is a 15 minute odd track, but there are quite few other tracks as well.

@JH - Have you tried Destroy Erase Improve? I think you might like that more. I mean, if you like Gojira, Meshuggah definitely should be enjoyable!

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Here's the first track from the album, which might be a good indication of what's to come. Make sure to listen to it at full blast

I have worked out why I can't get on with them-it's the production. It does'nt do them justice.

lucifer_sam · 11-05-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I'm listening to the latest Meshuggah 'Obzen' and it's still boring me. I should give up on them. However the latest Gojira gets better with each listen.

Really? The last track is hypnotizing.

I wouldn't force it if you don't like them.

~~The Unfan~~ · 11-05-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Embracethedeath

Trivium are the most popular metalcore band(I'm pretty sure they are, I wouldn't know though cause i have no knowledge of metalcore really) and are one of the most noticeable metalcore bands. Metal elitists hate metalcore and if all they hear about is Trivium, then they will hate Trivium.

Trivium are far from metalcore. They're more of a Shadows Fall-esque nu-thrash.

jackhammer · 11-05-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

Trivium are far from metalcore. They're more of a Shadows Fall-esque nu-thrash.

No they are just terribly average.

Embracethedeath · 11-05-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

Trivium are far from metalcore. They're more of a Shadows Fall-esque nu-thrash.

Ummm...both of those bands are metalcore.
Nu-thrash? Haven't heard that one yet. That should go into the "how many genres" thread

~~The Unfan~~ · 11-05-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Embracethedeath

Ummm...both of those bands are metalcore.
Nu-thrash? Haven't heard that one yet. That should go into the "how many genres" thread

Weird, I've never heard Shadows Fall ever referred to as anything but nu-thrash. I can't even hear any "core" in either band while I'm at it. I have no clue what Shadows Fall you're talking about but even though I highly dislike them I can't find any chugga chugga or breakdown. Am I totally missing something or do all dip****s refer to lousy metal as "metalcore" without knowing what the term means?

Embracethedeath · 11-05-2008, 06:55 PM

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Weird, I've never heard Shadows Fall ever referred to as anything but nu-thrash. I can't even hear any "core" in either band while I'm at it. I have no clue what Shadows Fall you're talking about but even though I highly dislike them I can't find any chugga chugga or breakdown. Am I totally missing something or do all dip****s refer to lousy metal as "metalcore" without knowing what the term means?

Nu-thrash must be a recently constructed term. Shadows Fall and Trivium are undoubtedly metalcore. It doesn't matter what the band calls themselves, they remain metalcore. Metalcore is basically melodeath with hardcore influences, and doesn't necessarily need breakdowns. Both Shadows Fall and Trivium have throaty "hardcore" vocals with clean vocals mixed in, which is quintessential metalcore. Both bands have riffing styles that mainly focus on melody, another common metalcore attribute.

Here's a site that considers both bands metalcore, and this is probably one of the most reliable metal-related sites your gonna find
Encyclopaedia Metallum: The Metal Archives

Nu-thrash is either made up by you, or a term tagged on to bands like Trivium and Shadows Fall that don't want to associate themselves with the generally looked down upon "metalcore" genre. I know I'm right, Wikipedia doesn't even have a page for that genre!! hahaaha

jackhammer · 11-05-2008, 07:18 PM

What are VOIVOD considered genre wise, if you don't mind me asking?

Embracethedeath · 11-05-2008, 07:24 PM

Progressive thrash earlier and now they're pretty much just progressive

~~The Unfan~~ · 11-05-2008, 10:50 PM

Metalcore

Shadows Fall

So I still can't hear anything remotely metalcore about Shadows Fall. It just simply isn't metalcore. Other than this particular Shadows Fall song having a ****ty chugga chugga bit right before the solo.

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~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	Metalcore Shadows Fall So I still can't hear anything remotely metalcore about Shadows Fall. It just simply isn't metalcore. Other than this particular Shadows Fall song having a ****ty chugga chugga bit right before the solo.