Music Banter - Death Magnetic

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Originally Posted by Ace (Post 515309)

Uh. If it were the same thing they had been doing, we'd end up with some sort of St. Anger or Load/Reload sequel. Rick Rubin told them to try to make an 80's sounding album, and they did. You aren't going to get better than Master of Puppets, ...And Justice For All and The Black Album, so people need to quit comparing everything they do to those albums. EVERY band has that one or two records that's just simply better than the rest. The highlighted moments of their careers. Metallica has never released "the same thing", that's the reason why they lost so many old fans.

I think most of us are glad to hear some old familiar sounds for a change.

IT WAS a re/load sequel.
sloppy sound, dull instrumentals,choppy production.
nothing changed.
really, nothing changed, metallica fans are just too sucked up in the hype of a new album that they all think its brilliant stuff. in two years you will all agree with me.

....it's really hard not to think you're speaking out of pure ignorance, but I'll bite. How is this thrash metal album a sequel to a hard rock album with ****ty production? This one sounds like it cost atleast a few grand to produce, and St. Anger sounded like it cost a few bucks.
Neither Load or ReLoad contained instrumentals, either.

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Originally Posted by Demonoid (Post 516117)

Well, i meant now. Or at least most of the modern day thrash. There's thrash-death and progressive-thrash which i prefer more now, but that's nothing new for me. Let me know, if you do have any recommendations.(I'm talking about last 5 years or so)

Dorso? They've been around for ages but their latest (released just recently actually, the name escapes me) is still pretty different.

i had a listen today\
prett ygood stuff
reminded me of their old stuff in a nice way

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Originally Posted by 15Steps (Post 516721)

really, nothing changed, metallica fans are just too sucked up in the hype of a new album that they all think its brilliant stuff

By the same token their doubters will be too set in their ways to give them any praise where it's deserved :D

^
More or less what I wanted to say, but was a bit off.
Well said :clap:

Definitely, I don't think anyone was expecting anything new or revolutionary from them.

You could have used a less offensive word to get your point across wayfarer. Let's hope it's the last.

As for your review: some decent valid points.

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 517179)

Alright alright fine, edited.

And yeah, I guess it does sound a bit off, but that's probably because I was replying to a few particular points somebody made in a post. He was talking about how a lot of people think DM is good but not "great" (as in up there with RTL/MOP). I'm basically just saying that it's virtually impossible for it to be "great" now because that style had already gone about as far as it was going to go by the early '90s, so anything thrashy made afterwards is probably just going to sound like a bunch of rehashed riffs/ideas. If Death Magnetic came out in '86 and Master Of Puppets came out now, people would probably be going on about how it's good but not quite up there with RTL/DM/AJFA.

Calm down fella. I agree with your review and you did'nt recieve a PM did you ;).

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 517179)

I'm basically just saying that it's virtually impossible for it to be "great" now because that style had already gone about as far as it was going to go by the early '90s, so anything thrashy made afterwards is probably just going to sound like a bunch of rehashed riffs/ideas. If Death Magnetic came out in '86 and Master Of Puppets came out now, people would probably be going on about how it's good but not quite up there with RTL/DM/AJFA.

Or not. Death Magnetic is just a genuinely bad thrash album. The riffs sound redundant, the song structures seem to flop about as opposed to progressing, the leads aren't notably good, the production is horrendously over done, and it seems to lack any real emotion. MOP was masterfully crafted, DM just isn't.

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 517205)

MOP had Burton underpinning everything with his melodic sense. They have NEVER come close to recreating this since. However DM is damn close. The reason why it sounds overdone and lacks emotion is because Thrash (as Wayfarer points out) is a limited genre and before we get all the 'sub genre' labels; Thrash is a genre that influenced a multitude of other Metal genres; yet there is no reason why it cannot stay true to it's original ideals and perform within those parameters.

Metallica were never a 'Progressive' band who pushed boundaries and musical avenues. They are merely one of the best bands at what they do. Motorhead and Hawkwind still stick to a fairly set formula so why not Metallica?

If you think it's a sloppy Thrash album, then you should backtrack and listen to every other Metal album circa '88-'90. The odd gem passed through but by god was there some crap.