Death Magnetic

Ace · 09-27-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Well no but if all he does is spew shite causing everyone to ignore him...

Anyway, to get back on topic, anyone still interested in the GH3 rips? Sorry I haven't gotten back to any of you, my internet was down for about a week.

Yeah, I'd greatly appreciate a link to that.
I'm close to using the retail version as a shooting ski.

Edit: The MeltingPot dude is acting like an arse in my opinion.

I've probably defended Metallica more than you have, but I am not going to sit here and ignore the flaws on Death Magnetic.
The music is genius, the production is utter crap. You don't have to be a sound technician to hear the problems on this album.

And I AM a sound tech, so it DEFINATELY does not sit well with me.
I am by NO means a pro, but I could have mixed this album better myself.
For one, I wouldn't have compressed the piss out of it and killed the dynamics of the music.

Ace · 09-27-2008, 08:18 PM

Alot of the riffs are influenced by very old ones. Most of these riffs are ideas they had from 2006 - onward.

Seltzer · 09-28-2008, 01:45 AM

I haven't given it a full listen yet, but I was just listening some of the tracks with my flatmate who loves Metallica.

After hearing The Day That Never Comes a couple of weeks ago, I didn't have particularly high hopes. Especially after that embarrassing section starting at 5 mins with the gimmicky riffs.

After listening to a few more tracks, they seem ok and definitely superior to St Anger, but nothing great. My problem is that a lot of it seems predictable and pedestrian. Especially the parts where they take one riff, repeat it and then add a variation for the third and fourth rounds... and that variation seems to be either switching 2 notes around, moving it down/up a bit, adding a second guitar playing the same riff, or playing it with two and taking one away. And I won't even start on the production... coupled with Lars' drumming, it makes it sound like a workout session.

I'll give it a full listen sometime - maybe it'll grow on me. I look forward to hearing the Unforgiven III.

Molecules · 09-28-2008, 03:37 AM

i've not listened to this yet, only watched all the 'Later...with Jools Holland' performances broadcast in the UK the other week.

I was initially impressed to see the solos and progressions back in force (it was an insane performance and as tight as you'd expect, especially in the context of the other bands on that show), but as Seltzer implies they haven't quite shaken some of the bad habits picked up from St.Anger, or indeed their meanderings from the 'classic' sound throughout the 90's (the Black Album onwards - most of this left me cold).

Still I'm gonna cop it, for 'Cyanide' at least

~~under~~ · 09-28-2008, 12:18 PM

i do like the album because of the influence they put in from their earlier stuff. like the "Ride the Lighting" album, Death Magnetic comes from those earlier albums. I think it does need some improvement but the riffs and guitar solos are definately a good sign.

Ace · 09-28-2008, 01:38 PM

Don't look forward to The Unforgiven III.......it's alright, but it's horrible in comparison to the other two.
James pretty much killed the song with the lyrics.

"How can I be lost - If I got nowhere to go?" <----totally makes no sense.

Ace · 09-28-2008, 05:06 PM

How..?
"How can I BE LOST, if I've got nowhere to go."

Might make some sense if he said get lost, instead of be.

~~The Unfan~~ · 09-28-2008, 05:16 PM

It doesn't make much sense either way. You can be completely oblivious to your surroundings and not know where you are even if you lack a direction in which you're supposed to be going.

Ace · 09-28-2008, 07:04 PM

Eh. I'm always critical of lyrics.
Thrash or not, that has nothing to do with the matter. Simply because it's thrash, doesn't mean people should ignore the lyrics.
I'm not being a prick, I just know James Hetfield is capable of a hell of alot more than that.

NSW · 09-28-2008, 11:53 PM

I skimmed through the album a few nights ago with my brother, who thinks it is completely awesome. It's definitely better than St. Anger from what I heard. And it might just be me, but does it seem like James Hetfield's vocals are lacking? They just seem weak. I don't know how else to describe it.
It's obvious they are trying to get back to their glory days, but it's just not there, IMO.

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09-28-2008, 01:45 AM	#143 (permalink)
Seltzer Fish in the percolator! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hobbit Land NZ Posts: 2,870	I haven't given it a full listen yet, but I was just listening some of the tracks with my flatmate who loves Metallica. After hearing The Day That Never Comes a couple of weeks ago, I didn't have particularly high hopes. Especially after that embarrassing section starting at 5 mins with the gimmicky riffs. After listening to a few more tracks, they seem ok and definitely superior to St Anger, but nothing great. My problem is that a lot of it seems predictable and pedestrian. Especially the parts where they take one riff, repeat it and then add a variation for the third and fourth rounds... and that variation seems to be either switching 2 notes around, moving it down/up a bit, adding a second guitar playing the same riff, or playing it with two and taking one away. And I won't even start on the production... coupled with Lars' drumming, it makes it sound like a workout session. I'll give it a full listen sometime - maybe it'll grow on me. I look forward to hearing the Unforgiven III. __________________ In the Court of King Crimson \| Last.fm \| RYM

09-28-2008, 03:37 AM	#144 (permalink)
Molecules daddy don't Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the Wastes Posts: 2,577	i've not listened to this yet, only watched all the 'Later...with Jools Holland' performances broadcast in the UK the other week. I was initially impressed to see the solos and progressions back in force (it was an insane performance and as tight as you'd expect, especially in the context of the other bands on that show), but as Seltzer implies they haven't quite shaken some of the bad habits picked up from St.Anger, or indeed their meanderings from the 'classic' sound throughout the 90's (the Black Album onwards - most of this left me cold). Still I'm gonna cop it, for 'Cyanide' at least __________________ [SIZE="1"]Eff em tumble her

09-28-2008, 11:53 PM	#150 (permalink)
NSW Bigger and Better Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas girl living in the UK Posts: 2,596	I skimmed through the album a few nights ago with my brother, who thinks it is completely awesome. It's definitely better than St. Anger from what I heard. And it might just be me, but does it seem like James Hetfield's vocals are lacking? They just seem weak. I don't know how else to describe it. It's obvious they are trying to get back to their glory days, but it's just not there, IMO. __________________ Hi.

09-28-2008, 12:18 PM	#145 (permalink)
~~under~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,056	i do like the album because of the influence they put in from their earlier stuff. like the "Ride the Lighting" album, Death Magnetic comes from those earlier albums. I think it does need some improvement but the riffs and guitar solos are definately a good sign.

09-28-2008, 05:16 PM	#148 (permalink)
~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	It doesn't make much sense either way. You can be completely oblivious to your surroundings and not know where you are even if you lack a direction in which you're supposed to be going.