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Neapolitan 05-19-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sodacake (Post 496049)
Going by the criteria, though, Hendrix does win without a doubt. He scores more in creativity, originality, influence, status, impact than anyone else. Others do come very close but Hendrix always has the edge.

I always have doubt about Jimi Hendrix being the #1 guitar player. I think Jimi Hendrix is a amazing guitar player, but I am skeptical of how guitarist get rated. Yes he's great, but sometimes I wonder if people rank him number one for reasons other then his guitar playing, do they rate Jimi Hendrix because he's got personality, he's cool? Is he more remember for what he did then what he played? Like at the Monterey Pop Festival, he got his freak on with his gutiar, burned it, smashed it, and he played at Woodstock, the syzygy of sex, drugs and Rock and Roll for the baby boomers. Is that the critea for being the best guitar player? Does his showmanship upstage his playing?

DReills84 05-20-2009 06:07 AM

Jimi Hendrix
Rory Gallagher
John Squire
Johnny Marr
Pete Townshend
Tom Morello
Keith richard
Eric Clapton

crash_override 05-20-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 662464)
I always have doubt about Jimi Hendrix being the #1 guitar player. I think Jimi Hendrix is a amazing guitar player, but I am skeptical of how guitarist get rated. Yes he's great, but sometimes I wonder if people rank him number one for reasons other then his guitar playing, do they rate Jimi Hendrix because he's got personality, he's cool? Is he more remember for what he did then what he played? Like at the Monterey Pop Festival, he got his freak on with his gutiar, burned it, smashed it, and he played at Woodstock, the syzygy of sex, drugs and Rock and Roll for the baby boomers. Is that the critea for being the best guitar player? Does his showmanship upstage his playing?

I agree, I myself have never quite understood what makes Hendrix such a 'shoe-in' at #1. But it's not my list so I can't change it. You could always try pleading your case to booboo, he seem's like a pretty reasonable guy.


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Originally Posted by DReills84 (Post 662531)
Jimi Hendrix
Rory Gallagher
John Squire
Johnny Marr
Pete Townshend
Tom Morello
Keith richard
Eric Clapton

No, and I'm sure Pete Townshend shouldn't be drouped with these guys.

boo boo 05-20-2009 02:08 PM

Why not? He's certainly better than Richards.

He's one of the most influencial guitarists of his time, and anyone who's listened to Live at Leeds and Quadrophena knows the guy really can play.

crash_override 05-20-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 662790)
Why not? He's certainly better than Richards.

He's one of the most influencial guitarists of his time, and anyone who's listened to Live at Leeds and Quadrophena knows the guy really can play.

Was saying he's in a different atmosphere than those guys. You mis-read my post. No harn, no foul. you basically said was I was trying to say.

Son of JayJamJah 05-20-2009 04:09 PM

When is the last time the order was updated 2boo?

boo boo 05-20-2009 04:29 PM

A year. But I'll work on a new version soon.

Son of JayJamJah 05-20-2009 04:44 PM

I really like most of the top 100, but we are both partial to 60's and 70's rock so that figures I guess.

boo boo 05-20-2009 05:18 PM

I don't think that's being unfair to other decades. It's just that those two decades had a lot more innovative and influencial guitarists.

I try to be fair to every genre.

Neapolitan 05-20-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 662790)
Why not? He's certainly better than Richards.

He's one of the most influencial guitarists of his time, and anyone who's listened to Live at Leeds and Quadrophena knows the guy really can play.

No way, is Pete Twonsend better then Keith Richards,
Here is 10 reasons why?
0. Keith Richards is the first blues-rock guitarist from the UK (I'm not say the best but the first)
1. The Beatles disasssociated themselves from the British Invasion feeling everyband wanted to be them, so that leaves The Rolling Stones as the premier British Invasion band.
2. He's a pirate, Captain Jack Sparrows father
3. He names his guitars, he doesn't smash them into peices, he gives them names like "Micawber" "Malcomb" "Dice" "Dwight" which is way cooler then smashing them.
3. He learned every Robert Johnson song.
4. He owned the first Les Paul that had a Bigsby vibrato on it in the UK.
5. He plays a 5-string guitar tune to an open G chord,
6. He detunes his guitars, he doesn't smash them.
7. Aftermath was an influence on The Beatle's Sgt. Pepper album.
8. You can't understand a single word he says.
9. He covered blues artist like Slim Harpo and Willie Dixon.
10. Pete Townsend got his windmill move from imitating Keith Richards.


N.B. Danny Gatton (45) and Link Wray (23) were guitarist for Robert Gordon (not together but at different times)

Mick Ralphs (Mott the Hopple, Bad Company) where is he on the list???
If you caninclude Mickey Baker as a session musician then include
Tommy Todesco (Association, Beach Boys, Everly Brothers, Fifth Demension, Elvis Frank Zappa, etc etc)
Hank Garland (Elvis Presley, Roy Orbison, Patsy Cline)

What about these guitar player?
Def Leppard:
Steve Clark
Phil Collen
The Ventures:
Bob Boggle
Don Wilson
Nokie Edwards
Jerry Magee

and you might care for these guys but I would included them...
Richard Lloyd (Televison) didn't see him on the list??
Jo Callis (The Rezillos)
Andy Gill (Gang of Four)
Sammy James, Jr. & Graham Tyler, (The Mooney Suzuki)
Albert Hammond, Jr. & Nick Velensi (The Strokes)

boo boo 05-21-2009 09:40 AM

Thanks for the recs, I'll work on it.

Mirrorball95 05-21-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 495042)
So I've been bored as crap, and after reading that awful Rolling Stone list from last month I came up with an idea for my blog.

So heres this list I've been working on for like a week, which is a list of what I consider the greatest guitarists of all time, tried to be objective as much as possible (though it's still biased) by representing every genre and era. You can tell me what you think of it, though I dont intent on changing it much. Criteria: Impact, Influence, Skill, Popularity, Creativity, Originality.

The 200 greatest guitarists in rock

1. Jimi Hendrix (Jimi Hendrix Experience, Band of Gypsys)
2. Eddie Van Halen (Van Halen)
3. Jeff Beck ( The Yardbirds, The Jeff Beck Group, session work, solo)
4. Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin, The Yardbirds, The Firm, session work, solo)
5. Eric Clapton (Cream, Derek & The Dominos, The Yardbirds, John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers, solo)
6. Chuck Berry (solo)
7. Pete Townshend (The Who, solo)
8. Scotty Moore (Elvis Presley)
9. Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple, Rainbow, Blackmores Night)
10. Duane Allman (Allman Brothers Band, Derek & The Dominos, session work)
11. Bo Diddley (solo)
12. Robert Fripp (King Crimson, Fripp & Eno, Giles Giles & Fripp, session work)
13. Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath)
14. Carlos Santana (Santana)
15. Steve Cropper (Booker T & The MGs)
16. David Gilmour (Pink Floyd, solo, session work)
17. Brian May (Queen, solo)
18. Steve Vai (Frank Zappa, Alcatrazz, David Lee Roth, Whitesnake, solo)
19. Stevie Ray Vaughan (Double Trouble, session work)
20. Yngwie Malmsteen (Steeler, Alcatrazz, solo)
21. George Harrison (The Beatles, Traveling Wilburys, solo)
22. Steve Howe (Yes, Asia, Tomorrow, solo)
23. Link Wray (solo)
24. Jerry Garcia (The Grateful Dead, solo)
25. Dick Dale (solo)
26. Frank Zappa (Mothers of Invention, solo)
27. Ry Cooder (Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band, solo, session work)
28. John Mclaughlan (The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Miles Davis, Shakti)
29. Keith Richards (Rolling Stones, solo)
30. Roy Buchanan (solo)
31. James Burton (Rick Nelson, Elvis Presley)
32. Joe Satriani (solo)
33. Carl Perkins (solo)
34. Steve Hackett (Genesis, solo)
35. Jimmy Nolen (The J.B.'s)
36. Randy Rhoads (Quiet Riot, Ozzy Osbourne)
37. Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits, solo)
38. Eddie Cochran (solo)
39. Phil Keaggy (Glass Harp, solo)
40. John Fogerty (Creedence Clearwater Revival, solo)
41. Allan Holdsworth (Gong, Soft Machine, UK, solo)
42. Duane Eddy (solo)
43. Eric Johnson (The Electromagnets, solo)
44. Eddie Hazel (Funkadelic, solo)
45. Danny Gatton (solo)
46. Slash (Guns N Roses, Slash's Snakepit, Velvet Revolver)
47. Mick Ronson (David Bowie, solo)
48. Shawn Lane (Black Oak Arkansas, The Willys, HLS, solo)
49. Tom Morello (Rage Against the Machine, Audioslave, The Nightwatchman)
50. Johnny Marr (The Smiths, Modest Mouse, The Cribs, Electronic, The The)
51, 52, & 53. Joe Messina/Robert White/Eddie Willis (The Funk Brothers)
54. Steve Morse (Dixie Dregs, Deep Purple, Kansas, solo, session work)
55. Mike Bloomfield (Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Electric Flag, Bob Dylan, solo, session work)
56. Johnny Ramone (Ramones)
57. Alex Lifeson (Rush)
58. Jorma Kaukonen (Jefferson Airplane, Hot Tuna, solo)
59 & 60. Dave Murray/Adrian Smith (Iron Maiden)
61. Jan Akkerman (Focus, solo)
62 & 63. Thurston Moore/Lee Renaldo (Sonic Youth, Glenn Branca, solo)
64 & 65. Angus Young/Malcolm Young (AC/DC)
66. Tom Verlaine (Television, solo)
67. Dave Davies (The Kinks, solo)
68. Kevin Shields (My Bloody Valentine, Primal Scream, solo)
69. Cliff Gallup (Gene Vincent's Blue Caps)
70. Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top)
71. Johnny Winter (solo)
72 & 73. Jonny Greenwood/Ed O'Brien (Radiohead)
74. Neal Schon (Journey, Santana, Bad English, solo)
75. Andy Summers (The Police, The Animals, solo)
76. Marty Friedman (Cacophony, Megadeth, solo)
77. Roger McGuinn (The Byrds, solo)
78. D. Boon (Minutemen)
79. John Cipollina (Quicksilver Messenger Service, The Dinosaurs)
80. Lonnie Mack (solo, session work)
81 & 81. Glenn Tipton/K.K. Downing (Judas Priest)
82. Mick Taylor (The Rolling Stones, John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers, solo, session work)
83. The Edge (U2, solo)
84. Terry Kath (Chicago)
85. John Squire (The Stone Roses, The Seahorses, solo)
86. Peter Green (Fleetwood Mac, John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers, Peter Green Splinter Group, solo, session work)
87. Greg Ginn (Black Flag, solo)
88. Neil Young (Buffalo Springfield, CSNY, Crazy Horse, solo)
89. Paul Gilbert (Mr. Big, Racer X, solo)
90. Trey Anastasio (Phish, Oysterhead, solo)
91. Fred Frith (Henry Cow, Art Bears, Massacre, Skeleton Crew, solo)
92. Joe Walsh (The Eagles, James Gang, solo)
93. Robin Trower (Procol Harum, solo)
94. Billy Zoom (X, solo)
95. Dickey Betts (Allman Brothers Band, solo)
96. Paul Kossoff (Free, Back Street Crawler, solo)
97. Robbie Robertson (The Band, Bob Dylan, solo)
98. John Frusciante (Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Mars Volta, solo)
99. Syd Barrett (Pink Floyd, solo)



Neil Young 88th? Are you serious? What have you been smoking?
Also Carlos Santana should be higher up the list. So should Rory Gallagher!
Jimmy Page is overrated. So is Mark Knopfler but I still like his music.
What about John Squire,Steve Craddock, Jeffrey Lee Pierce?

And where the f*ck (excuse the french) is John Lee Hooker, BB King, Djengo Rheinhardt, Joe Pass, Thurston Moore/Kim Gordon?????
Now I can understand these lists cant exactly be that easy to do & its easy to forget about certain artists etc etc but I think to do one of these you have to consider all genres (including Jazz guitarists & even artists you dont even like).
To me this list just looks like its listed in order of fame/popularity.
But thats just my opinion of course.

Im intriguied though as Im sure I saw a very similar list in a recent music mag & Im sure Neil Young was either 88th or 89th in it & Hendrix was definitley no1with Page closeby.
So did you just copy it from the internet/magazine?

khfreek 05-21-2009 05:10 PM

Your long posts, which you insist on separating into several paragraphs, hardly ever contain enough that couldn't be said in a sentence or two. And quoting the whole list of 200 guitarists is just obnoxious.

Mirrorball95 05-21-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 663826)
Your long posts, which you insist on separating into several paragraphs, hardly ever contain enough that couldn't be said in a sentence or two. And quoting the whole list of 200 guitarists is just obnoxious.

And tell me, why should I change what i have to say to suit you?
I just type what I have to say, whether it pleases you or not.
I typed what I felt was enough & I didnt realise the whole list had been quoted until the end so I deleted a bit of it.

The reason I seperate them into paragraphs was because a certain individual (s) complained in the past about me typing it all together in one big 'wall of text' as they put it.
So I try to make it easier to read.

Comus 05-21-2009 05:23 PM

Yet it ends up becoming even more difficult to read.

khfreek 05-21-2009 05:28 PM

Might have something to do with his use of the enter key so much, even within paragraphs.

Mirrorball95 05-21-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 663836)
Yet it ends up becoming even more difficult to read.

Well if I can read it then surely you can as well?

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 663842)
Might have something to do with his use of the enter key so much, even within paragraphs.

I have my habits :laughing:, so less use of the enter button and thats it right? I aint going to shorten my posts, I usually have too much to say lol.

boo boo 05-21-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirrorball95 (Post 663824)
Neil Young 88th? Are you serious? What have you been smoking?
Also Carlos Santana should be higher up the list. So should Rory Gallagher!
Jimmy Page is overrated. So is Mark Knopfler but I still like his music.
What about John Squire,Steve Craddock, Jeffrey Lee Pierce?

Squire is up there.

I love Neil Young, he's a great guitarist, but lets not go crazy, I'm judging him as a guitarist alone. And as a guitarist alone there's a good deal of people who outrank him even if he's a better songwriter.

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And where the f*ck (excuse the french) is John Lee Hooker, BB King, Djengo Rheinhardt, Joe Pass, Thurston Moore/Kim Gordon?????
This is a rock oriented list. I do have some blues guitarists on here that I feel have a more rock oriented sound, like SRV. But Django and Pass certainly don't qualify as rock.

Thurston Moore is up there. Kim Gordon is the bassist, not a guitarist.

Quote:

Now I can understand these lists cant exactly be that easy to do & its easy to forget about certain artists etc etc but I think to do one of these you have to consider all genres (including Jazz guitarists & even artists you dont even like).
200 Greatest Guitarists in Rock.

If it were an all genres list, there would barely be any rock in it at all.

Quote:

To me this list just looks like its listed in order of fame/popularity.
But thats just my opinion of course.
Eh no... There's a lot of obscure names in there, from all the big rock genres. If the popular names are higher, that's because influence and impact is a factor.

Quote:

Im intriguied though as Im sure I saw a very similar list in a recent music mag & Im sure Neil Young was either 88th or 89th in it & Hendrix was definitley no1with Page closeby.
So did you just copy it from the internet/magazine?
Absolutely not and I'm quite insulted that you are suggesting that.

Comus 05-21-2009 07:58 PM

Hahaha I must have missed that last bit, seriously why can't we just ban mirrorball? Also, the list was probably copied from here considering how old it is in comparison to whatever the hell he's quoting as "recent".

Mirrorball95 05-22-2009 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 663941)
Squire is up there.

I love Neil Young, he's a great guitarist, but lets not go crazy, I'm judging him as a guitarist alone. And as a guitarist alone there's a good deal of people who outrank him even if he's a better songwriter.



This is a rock oriented list. I do have some blues guitarists on here that I feel have a more rock oriented sound, like SRV. But Django and Pass certainly don't qualify as rock.

Thurston Moore is up there. Kim Gordon is the bassist, not a guitarist.



200 Greatest Guitarists in Rock.

If it were an all genres list, there would barely be any rock in it at all.



Eh no... There's a lot of obscure names in there, from all the big rock genres. If the popular names are higher, that's because influence and impact is a factor.



Absolutely not and I'm quite insulted that you are suggesting that.

Yeah fair enough, I admit I was a bit harsh. Also I put Moore & Gordon because I couldnt remember which one was the bassist lol.
Really? I couldnt find Squire, will just have to have another look.

EDIT: This is a good reason why Santana should be higher up the list:
This is the only song I religiously listen to at least once a day without fail, usually at night.

O and heres another:


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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 663952)
Hahaha I must have missed that last bit, seriously why can't we just ban mirrorball? Also, the list was probably copied from here considering how old it is in comparison to whatever the hell he's quoting as "recent".

Stop sticking up for your fellow mods & be yourself. (Thats if you are a mod, which Im supposing you are judging by your post count).

Comus 05-22-2009 04:24 AM

ouch dude, ouch.

Mirrorball95 05-22-2009 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 664090)
ouch dude, ouch.

Look the only reason you want me banned is because we disagreed on something in the past.
The real truth is that you knew I was right, but was too scared to admit it until Booboo came along and said practically the same thing worded differentley.

Comus 05-22-2009 04:47 AM

You obviously have no idea about the general interaction/relationships/mood of this forum do you? Can't you ever read between the lines? God knows you create enough of them.

Mirrorball95 05-22-2009 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 664098)
You obviously have no idea about the general interaction/relationships/mood of this forum do you? Can't you ever read between the lines? God knows you create enough of them.

I do actually, just I find you a bit hard to understand at times.
We must be on different wavelengths.

Comus 05-22-2009 05:34 AM

Yeah, one of us actually has a brain capable of recieving, deciphering and transferring them.

EDIT: What in the flying fuck am I doing standing up for Boo Boo? Screw this.

Mirrorball95 05-22-2009 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 664108)
Yeah, one of us actually has a brain capable of recieving, deciphering and transferring them.

EDIT: What in the flying fuck am I doing standing up for Boo Boo? Screw this.

Hmm I wonder who it is :p:

As for 'standing up for Boo boo', you took a while to catch on to that comment; I think this answers the above question. ^

Also you were so un-original with your comment on the most annoying MB member thread...

Syffuf25 05-24-2009 01:48 AM

Maybe I just like System of a Down too much, but I could see Daron Malakian fitting somewhere in the list, probably towards the end though.

Hotroderic 05-27-2009 11:45 PM

Its an alright list, however, I still think there was a few different Id put up there, so ill give a top 5 from my POV

1.Hendrix-Self-Explanitory
2.Van Halen-Eruption=WOW
3.Clapton- Riffs from SOYL Is IMMORTAL!!! Layla is nice too :)
4.Buckethead-Have you heard this guy play?OMG
5.Slash-Hands down the Best Blues guitar player in my eyes

lucifer_sam 05-27-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotroderic (Post 667371)
Its an alright list, however, I still think there was a few different Id put up there, so ill give a top 5 from my POV

1.Hendrix-Self-Explanitory
2.Van Halen-Eruption=WOW
3.Clapton- Riffs from SOYL Is IMMORTAL!!! Layla is nice too :)
4.Buckethead-Have you heard this guy play?OMG
5.Slash-Hands down the Best Blues guitar player in my eyes

Duane Allman played both the main riff and slide solo to Layla.

crash_override 05-28-2009 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotroderic (Post 667371)
Its an alright list, however, I still think there was a few different Id put up there, so ill give a top 5 from my POV

1.Hendrix-Self-Explanitory
2.Van Halen-Eruption=WOW
3.Clapton- Riffs from SOYL Is IMMORTAL!!! Layla is nice too :)
4.Buckethead-Have you heard this guy play?OMG
5.Slash-Hands down the Best Blues guitar player in my eyes

No, just... no.

khfreek 05-28-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotroderic (Post 667371)
4.Buckethead-Have you heard this guy play?OMG

Yeah, it's too bad you haven't.

crash_override 05-28-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 667571)
Yeah, it's too bad you haven't.

Wow, I was under the impression you were a fan.

jacklovezhimself 05-28-2009 09:09 AM

Yeah Slash is totally considered a blue guitar player let alone, the best blues guitar player. Way to go, you opened my eyes.

crash_override 05-28-2009 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jacklovezhimself (Post 667578)
Yeah Slash is totally considered a blue guitar player let alone, the best blues guitar player. Way to go, you opened my eyes.

What is wrong with you people?!?!

jacklovezhimself 05-28-2009 09:15 AM

....can't catch sarcasm?

crash_override 05-28-2009 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jacklovezhimself (Post 667584)
....can't catch sarcasm?

Not when it comes equipped with spelling errors. Sorry.

jacklovezhimself 05-28-2009 09:29 AM

haha yes...a blue guitar player....

khfreek 05-28-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 667574)
Wow, I was under the impression you were a fan.

I didn't say I hadn't heard Buckethead play, I said he hadn't.

AshleighJane 05-29-2009 05:43 AM

Jimi totally deserves number one...scratch that john lennon or george harrison totally deserves number one

Sodacake 06-05-2009 10:13 AM

I'm sorry to bump this topic but that post was just stupid. Seriously people if you're going to make outrageous claims as to why someone should be ahead of Hendrix, the thought of which is equally outrageous, at least back up said claims with some kind of argument.


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