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Old 01-27-2006, 02:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 01-27-2006, 07:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Oh please name a better band than Circus Maximus!! Have you even heard of them?
And I'm guessing by good you just mean your personal tastes. I don't see how you or anyone could call any of those 10 bands not good from a musical perspective...By saying Adagio isn't good you pretty much said Mozart/Beethoven/Rachminov,etc, aren't good if you're going by musical-wise - which you obviously aren't, because that wouldn't make sense.
Yes I have heard Circus Maximus and they are no different to bands doing the same thing 10-15 years earlier. Comparing Adagio to the likes of Mozart is abusurd, perhaps if Adagio were creating masterpieces when they were 8 I might have to rethink my opinion.

But really i'm not comparing bands on musical ability, as you said I was merely expressing my opinion and I assure you I don't really care.
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Old 01-27-2006, 09:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes I have heard Circus Maximus and they are no different to bands doing the same thing 10-15 years earlier. Comparing Adagio to the likes of Mozart is abusurd, perhaps if Adagio were creating masterpieces when they were 8 I might have to rethink my opinion.

But really i'm not comparing bands on musical ability, as you said I was merely expressing my opinion and I assure you I don't really care.
Well I hope you realise that CM have only one album thus far, which was undoubtedly a masterpiece and hailed by critics all over the world. So it wouldn't surprise me if they became standard-bearers of their generation.

And yes, comparing Adagio to the likes of Mozart is of course absurd, but this wasn't what I was doing. If you are actually aware of any of Mozart's piano concertos and have heard "Next Profundis" by Adagio, for example, then you should understand what I meant. Adagio take many motifs and ideas from Mozart (to name one composer) and adapt it to the rock genre in a remarkable way.
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Well I hope you realise that CM have only one album thus far, which was undoubtedly a masterpiece and hailed by critics all over the world. So it wouldn't surprise me if they became standard-bearers of their generation.
I know the band has released one album, i'm sure they will be a good band but still it's nothing that hasn't already been done.

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And yes, comparing Adagio to the likes of Mozart is of course absurd, but this wasn't what I was doing. If you are actually aware of any of Mozart's piano concertos and have heard "Next Profundis" by Adagio, for example, then you should understand what I meant. Adagio take many motifs and ideas from Mozart (to name one composer) and adapt it to the rock genre in a remarkable way.
I was talking about their musicial ability as you said in your original post. No, I haven't heard that song however.

I really don't want to discuss this any further as no one will change the other opinion.
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I really don't want to discuss this any further as no one will change the other opinion.
Way to point out the obvious, no need to run though. Just a friendly conversation.
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Old 01-27-2006, 09:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm interested in your opinion, i'm not sure why. Perhaps because you have a somewhat good taste in music other than liking Muse and Radiohead. Anyway, you say you like film music. I enjoy Elmer Bernstein, Jerry Goldsmith, Bernard Herrmann and John Williams is not bad.
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I'm interested in your opinion, i'm not sure why. Perhaps because you have a somewhat good taste in music other than liking Muse and Radiohead. Anyway, you say you like film music. I enjoy Elmer Bernstein, Jerry Goldsmith, Bernard Herrmann and John Williams is not bad.
Good ****. R.I.P Goldsmith We will forever miss your brilliance on Total Recall, Gremlins etc, (even though you tend to use the minor to major thing too much). But what about Danny Elfman? My all time favourite film composer. My top 3 pieces are probably:
3: Jurassic Park - Williams best and probably the only thing I like from JW, except for maybe E.T, Superman and Duel of the Fates. He tends to recycle too much Korngold (for example) for my liking.
2: Edward Scissor hands
1: Batman and let's chuck in Batman Returns as well.

Hmm and number 4 is James Horner's 3rd attempt (Sneakers then Bicentennial Man) but nailed it: A Beautiful Mind opening titles.
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Old 01-27-2006, 10:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Oh yeah. Elfman is pretty good. I watched a little piece on tv about Goldsmiths life, it was quite interesting. He was probably one of my favourite composers, Legend is amazing.
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I find it funny how Goldsmith kept re-using that little motif. I can't describe it, but it's most evident in the main theme in Gremlins. He used it in almost every one of his compositions. It just comprises of 2 notes, but he changed the rhythm of course in subsequent compositions.
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I AM a drummer and danny carey is the best drummer out there. I have studied him over and over, and as far as your little jazz drummers, i heard the best jazz drummer in the world Jon Cobham say that he wouldn't step foot in the drum ring with Carey. Now that's respect. Study up and find some
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