Top 10 Rock Bands Ever? (drum, jazz, quote, talent, Hang)

~~Don~~ · 01-27-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Just ignore him, progheads are eltist as hell and its not good to them if it doesn't have progressive infront of it. You'd be better off arguing with a brick wall.

Well that wasn't a very nice generalisation to make. I enjoy many other types of music, namely: Film music, Concerto, Orchestral Music, Symphony, Chamber Music. As for the periods, I enjoy Baroque, Classical and Romantic the most.

~~Don~~ · 01-27-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting Star

Progessive metal wouldn't be all that hot if I didn't think Tool was in it. Who decides what "progessive metal is actually supposed to be"? I'm guessing since your favourite band is Dream Theater that progessive metal is supposed to be boring, which would mean it's a good thing Tool don't fit your notion of prog-metal. Comment what you will upon Adam Jones, I would agree with you that he doesn't have much guitar talent (although he is very creative art wise). Also Justin Chancellor isn't the uh.. Best. But it's hard to deny the technical proficiency of Danny Carey on drums, and I have no idea how you can not find Maynard's voice orgasmic. It is honestly one of the nicest sounding I've ever heard, not to mention his range. One of the main messages of Tool is to think for yourself, you ever consider that maybe allusions to bogus theories and nonsense are on purpose? Hell, Tool claimed to believe in Lachrymonolgy (or something like that) some bs theory about crying as a therapy, then abruptly stopped mentioning it (the only reference to Lachrymonolgy was made up by Tool).

" I have no idea how you can not find Maynard's voice orgasmic."

I have an idea: it's boring, and is deprived of any memorable or musically adept melodies.

As for Dan Carey, so he can play in different time signatures every so often, big deal. Being a drummer (amongst being able to play several other instruments) I don't find him all that impressive.

~~hiu~~ · 01-27-2006, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Don

Well I hope you realise that CM have only one album thus far, which was undoubtedly a masterpiece and hailed by critics all over the world. So it wouldn't surprise me if they became standard-bearers of their generation.

I know the band has released one album, i'm sure they will be a good band but still it's nothing that hasn't already been done.

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Originally Posted by Don

And yes, comparing Adagio to the likes of Mozart is of course absurd, but this wasn't what I was doing. If you are actually aware of any of Mozart's piano concertos and have heard "Next Profundis" by Adagio, for example, then you should understand what I meant. Adagio take many motifs and ideas from Mozart (to name one composer) and adapt it to the rock genre in a remarkable way.

I was talking about their musicial ability as you said in your original post. No, I haven't heard that song however.

I really don't want to discuss this any further as no one will change the other opinion.

~~Don~~ · 01-27-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorsInTheNight

I really don't want to discuss this any further as no one will change the other opinion.

Way to point out the obvious, no need to run though. Just a friendly conversation.

~~hiu~~ · 01-27-2006, 10:59 PM

I'm interested in your opinion, i'm not sure why. Perhaps because you have a somewhat good taste in music other than liking Muse and Radiohead. Anyway, you say you like film music. I enjoy Elmer Bernstein, Jerry Goldsmith, Bernard Herrmann and John Williams is not bad.

~~Don~~ · 01-27-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorsInTheNight

I'm interested in your opinion, i'm not sure why. Perhaps because you have a somewhat good taste in music other than liking Muse and Radiohead. Anyway, you say you like film music. I enjoy Elmer Bernstein, Jerry Goldsmith, Bernard Herrmann and John Williams is not bad.

Good ****. R.I.P Goldsmith

We will forever miss your brilliance on Total Recall, Gremlins etc, (even though you tend to use the minor to major thing too much). But what about Danny Elfman? My all time favourite film composer. My top 3 pieces are probably:
3: Jurassic Park - Williams best and probably the only thing I like from JW, except for maybe E.T, Superman and Duel of the Fates. He tends to recycle too much Korngold (for example) for my liking.
2: Edward Scissor hands
1: Batman and let's chuck in Batman Returns as well.

Hmm and number 4 is James Horner's 3rd attempt (Sneakers then Bicentennial Man) but nailed it: A Beautiful Mind opening titles.

~~hiu~~ · 01-27-2006, 11:10 PM

Oh yeah. Elfman is pretty good. I watched a little piece on tv about Goldsmiths life, it was quite interesting. He was probably one of my favourite composers, Legend is amazing.

~~Don~~ · 01-27-2006, 11:12 PM

I find it funny how Goldsmith kept re-using that little motif. I can't describe it, but it's most evident in the main theme in Gremlins. He used it in almost every one of his compositions. It just comprises of 2 notes, but he changed the rhythm of course in subsequent compositions.

Seltzer · 01-28-2006, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Don

" I have no idea how you can not find Maynard's voice orgasmic."

I have an idea: it's boring, and is deprived of any memorable or musically adept melodies.

As for Dan Carey, so he can play in different time signatures every so often, big deal. Being a drummer (amongst being able to play several other instruments) I don't find him all that impressive.

Danny Carey is great. I'm not a drummer, but he has pretty good feel, keeps it interesting and has quite a bit of skill. There are jazz drummers who would tear him to pieces but he's not talentless either.

~~Don~~ · 01-28-2006, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

Danny Carey is great. I'm not a drummer, but he has pretty good feel, keeps it interesting and has quite a bit of skill. There are jazz drummers who would tear him to pieces but he's not talentless either.

Agreed.

01-27-2006, 10:59 PM	#215 (permalink)
~~hiu~~ Account Disabled Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,174	I'm interested in your opinion, i'm not sure why. Perhaps because you have a somewhat good taste in music other than liking Muse and Radiohead. Anyway, you say you like film music. I enjoy Elmer Bernstein, Jerry Goldsmith, Bernard Herrmann and John Williams is not bad.

01-27-2006, 11:10 PM	#217 (permalink)
~~hiu~~ Account Disabled Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,174	Oh yeah. Elfman is pretty good. I watched a little piece on tv about Goldsmiths life, it was quite interesting. He was probably one of my favourite composers, Legend is amazing.

01-27-2006, 11:12 PM	#218 (permalink)
~~Don~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 647	I find it funny how Goldsmith kept re-using that little motif. I can't describe it, but it's most evident in the main theme in Gremlins. He used it in almost every one of his compositions. It just comprises of 2 notes, but he changed the rhythm of course in subsequent compositions.