Top 10 Rock Bands Ever? (lyrics, metal, ballad, single, genre)

Merkaba · 01-27-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Don

Oh please name a better band than Circus Maximus!! Have you even heard of them?
And I'm guessing by good you just mean your personal tastes. I don't see how you or anyone could call any of those 10 bands not good from a musical perspective...By saying Adagio isn't good you pretty much said Mozart/Beethoven/Rachminov,etc, aren't good if you're going by musical-wise - which you obviously aren't, because that wouldn't make sense.

Theres more to music then technical ability man. Just in the way you attempted to take my 10 to pieces, I stopped reading your opinions after the second one because it's all the same. Bands are influential for a reason. They don't just magically make it to stardom and then maintain some form of legacy without being that good.

For the most part, most of my bands wouldn't get a mention if we're talking tehnicalities. Infact I'd probably have to chuck in Dream Theater if technical ability was the deciding factor. But it's not. Rock music overall has to encompass feel, passion, ability, lyrics and performing. And unlike say Nirvana, Dream Theater only has two of those qualities, at the most. It's time to take your head out of the sand. Technical ability does not automatically make a band great. It's cool to have your opinion that prog is the only good type of music around, but we have ours too and frankly on an overall level these "mainstream poppy rock bands" as you call them, do a far better job of defining great rock then the technical masturbation of 10 prog bands.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe · 01-27-2006, 03:21 PM

dont fight with him...he wont give up.

sleepy jack · 01-27-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

Theres more to music then technical ability man. Just in the way you attempted to take my 10 to pieces, I stopped reading your opinions after the second one because it's all the same. Bands are influential for a reason. They don't just magically make it to stardom and then maintain some form of legacy without being that good.

For the most part, most of my bands wouldn't get a mention if we're talking tehnicalities. Infact I'd probably have to chuck in Dream Theater if technical ability was the deciding factor. But it's not. Rock music overall has to encompass feel, passion, ability, lyrics and performing. And unlike say Nirvana, Dream Theater only has two of those qualities, at the most. It's time to take your head out of the sand. Technical ability does not automatically make a band great. It's cool to have your opinion that prog is the only good type of music around, but we have ours too and frankly on an overall level these "mainstream poppy rock bands" as you call them, do a far better job of defining great rock then the technical masturbation of 10 prog bands.

Just ignore him, progheads are eltist as hell and its not good to them if it doesn't have progressive infront of it. You'd be better off arguing with a brick wall.

judas_priest · 01-27-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

Sorry buddy but you call our rock boring and then you list Dream Theater.

The band is a shocker and the guy on vocals whose name isn't worthy of my memory needs a bullet to the head. I know I know, they're technically orgasmic, but they are quite simply, boring.

I think James La Brie is really talented. Dream Theater are a great band.

Shooting Star · 01-27-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Don

Oh how grateful I am for you to mention Tool in your list, we saved the best for last.

This is what my brain goes through every time I think of Tool:

Tool...Oh Tool...Please No...God no...Oh no, you're not on my television are you? No! Radio tool? No pleeease! This has to be some sort of sick joke!

Tool...In a single line: the absolute worst. Thing. To. Ever. Happen. To. Progressive. Metal. Ever...End fact.
Where do I start? Their popularity actually scares me; that's God's honest truth. How on Earth can such a bunch of talentless a-holes ever become this popular? The worst part about it is how countless young teens think they're so cool for listening to them, most probably because they think they're in some secret world where no one else can get the music.
Obviously any moron can understand Tool, but it seems that they give the illusion of being a band for the intellectual. They do this by throwing in nonsensical references to high school psychology and garbage religious references, not to mention other meaningless nonsense. But it seems that as long as there’s something there to figure out, it's going to make some stoned dropout feel special.

As for their music? If there's anyone out there reading this who listens to Tool but hasn't heard of any other progressive metal bands, I pray to the Lord on your behalf. Please stop listening to them! I will do anything for you. Just please discover what progressive metal is actually supposed to be, not this ****.

Progessive metal wouldn't be all that hot if I didn't think Tool was in it. Who decides what "progessive metal is actually supposed to be"? I'm guessing since your favourite band is Dream Theater that progessive metal is supposed to be boring, which would mean it's a good thing Tool don't fit your notion of prog-metal. Comment what you will upon Adam Jones, I would agree with you that he doesn't have much guitar talent (although he is very creative art wise). Also Justin Chancellor isn't the uh.. Best. But it's hard to deny the technical proficiency of Danny Carey on drums, and I have no idea how you can not find Maynard's voice orgasmic. It is honestly one of the nicest sounding I've ever heard, not to mention his range. One of the main messages of Tool is to think for yourself, you ever consider that maybe allusions to bogus theories and nonsense are on purpose? Hell, Tool claimed to believe in Lachrymonolgy (or something like that) some bs theory about crying as a therapy, then abruptly stopped mentioning it (the only reference to Lachrymonolgy was made up by Tool).

~~hiu~~ · 01-27-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Don

Oh please name a better band than Circus Maximus!! Have you even heard of them?
And I'm guessing by good you just mean your personal tastes. I don't see how you or anyone could call any of those 10 bands not good from a musical perspective...By saying Adagio isn't good you pretty much said Mozart/Beethoven/Rachminov,etc, aren't good if you're going by musical-wise - which you obviously aren't, because that wouldn't make sense.

Yes I have heard Circus Maximus and they are no different to bands doing the same thing 10-15 years earlier. Comparing Adagio to the likes of Mozart is abusurd, perhaps if Adagio were creating masterpieces when they were 8 I might have to rethink my opinion.

But really i'm not comparing bands on musical ability, as you said I was merely expressing my opinion and I assure you I don't really care.

mosesandtherubberducky · 01-27-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Don

Ahhhh!! What is wrong with you people?!

Hardly ANY of you have listed any good bands. What is with all this 60/70's crap?! You can't all be 40 year-olds in here can you?

Damn I've been in prog forums too much that I didn't realise how many people liked ****, boring and simple rock. Okay here goes:

10. Muse
9. Radiohead
8. Transatlantic
7. Nevermore
6. Adagio
5. Kamelot
4. Liquid Tension Experiment
3. Symphony X
2. Circus Maximus
1. Dream Theater

I like Muse...thats it the rest is prog. and to be completely honest I don't like the prog I've heard. If someone can send me some that they thing I will like then I will listen to it. But lets see...I hate Nevermore, they are out of date. The 70-80s are gone.

Anyways, my list: (this is harder than I thought. Damn punk music, and your adictivity)
1. RATM
2. White Stripes (after this it is just going to be bands, can't make promises of them being rock/metal)
3. Matisyahu
4. Smashing Pumpkins
5. Buckethead
6. Queen
7. Muse
(I tried to, I really did but I just couldn't think of any right now)
8. Public Enemy
9. Beastie Boys
10. NWA

Merkaba · 01-27-2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Just ignore him, progheads are eltist as hell and its not good to them if it doesn't have progressive infront of it. You'd be better off arguing with a brick wall.

This is the only forum I've ever been a member of so I've never really encountered such people before.

~~Don~~ · 01-27-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

Theres more to music then technical ability man. Just in the way you attempted to take my 10 to pieces, I stopped reading your opinions after the second one because it's all the same. Bands are influential for a reason. They don't just magically make it to stardom and then maintain some form of legacy without being that good.

For the most part, most of my bands wouldn't get a mention if we're talking tehnicalities. Infact I'd probably have to chuck in Dream Theater if technical ability was the deciding factor. But it's not. Rock music overall has to encompass feel, passion, ability, lyrics and performing. And unlike say Nirvana, Dream Theater only has two of those qualities, at the most. It's time to take your head out of the sand. Technical ability does not automatically make a band great. It's cool to have your opinion that prog is the only good type of music around, but we have ours too and frankly on an overall level these "mainstream poppy rock bands" as you call them, do a far better job of defining great rock then the technical masturbation of 10 prog bands.

I've heard it all before. I'm well aware of the 'there's more to music than just technical ability' rant as I've argued against it countless times. Let's just use DT for the sake of argument because you used them against me. You said "Rock music overall has to encompass feel, passion, ability, lyrics and performing"

I take it you haven't heard DT ballads such as "Hollow Years" or "The Answer Lies Within" just to name two. For me those two are great examples of - as you put it - "encompass feel, passion..." And as for encompassing ability, listen to the live version of hollow years; the guitar solo is not only technically amazing but you can't help but feel the emotion it evokes. As for lyrics, well you can't possibly argue that these are no good:

"Carry me to the shoreline
Bury me in the sand
Walk me across the water
And maybe you'll understand"

Again, from Hollow Years. I take it you haven't heard that song before and have thus created a stereotypical image of DT after hearing perhaps 2 albums when actually, every single DT album is completely distinct. And lastly, performance? Well just watch Live at the Budokan.

~~Don~~ · 01-27-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorsInTheNight

Yes I have heard Circus Maximus and they are no different to bands doing the same thing 10-15 years earlier. Comparing Adagio to the likes of Mozart is abusurd, perhaps if Adagio were creating masterpieces when they were 8 I might have to rethink my opinion.

But really i'm not comparing bands on musical ability, as you said I was merely expressing my opinion and I assure you I don't really care.

Well I hope you realise that CM have only one album thus far, which was undoubtedly a masterpiece and hailed by critics all over the world. So it wouldn't surprise me if they became standard-bearers of their generation.

And yes, comparing Adagio to the likes of Mozart is of course absurd, but this wasn't what I was doing. If you are actually aware of any of Mozart's piano concertos and have heard "Next Profundis" by Adagio, for example, then you should understand what I meant. Adagio take many motifs and ideas from Mozart (to name one composer) and adapt it to the rock genre in a remarkable way.