Christian Jesus Metal (lyrics, quote, youtube)

Rainard Jalen · 04-15-2008, 12:39 PM

I'm disappointed with the satanism so frequent among MB metal fans. Not that I'm into religion or anything, but all this 666 skull & crossbone devil worship business, along with the anger and implied violence, is starting to make me queasy.

Why are metal fans so often taken up with satan worship, pentagrams and general dark imagery? What's wrong with something like:

In sum, why has metal been hijacked by the excessively bleak and morbid?

Piss Me Off · 04-15-2008, 01:02 PM

When do you think it was hijacked?

Rainard Jalen · 04-15-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off

When do you think it was hijacked?

Are you suggesting metal and its fans have always been like that? I mean, what about in the early days, NWOBHM and so forth. That wasn't all through-and-through morbid, satanic and evil.

Trollheart · 10-14-2008, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

Are you suggesting metal and its fans have always been like that? I mean, what about in the early days, NWOBHM and so forth. That wasn't all through-and-through morbid, satanic and evil.

Surely the NWOBHM gave rise to a LOT of black/satanic/devil type bands, if you go just by lyrics and artwork? Iron Maiden, THE number one propenent of the NWOBHM, came up with the album "The Number of the Beast". Then there was Black Sabbath, Venom, Demon, Mercyful Fate ... the list goes on.

I THINK what you mean, maybe, is that in recent times the MOOD of HM has gotten very doomy, gloomy and bishroomie (sorry!)

, with a lot of bands focussing on the darker areas of life, but then the metal we knew in our youth (well, I did in mine) has now fragmented into so many different sub-genres --- doom, death, thrash, power, black, viking... again, the list goes on.

There are a lot of really good Heavy Metal bands still making "upbeat" music, like Dragonforce, Hammerfall etc, and of course Maiden are still around. I wouldn't say it's ALL dark...

And then, if you want the other end of the scale, I know of at least one decent Christian Metal band who kick ass as good as, if not better than, many of the acts around today. Check out Narnia's "Long live the king", and see what I mean!

jackhammer · 10-14-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Surely the NWOBHM gave rise to a LOT of black/satanic/devil type bands, if you go just by lyrics and artwork? Iron Maiden, THE number one propenent of the NWOBHM, came up with the album "The Number of the Beast". Then there was Black Sabbath, Venom, Demon, Mercyful Fate ... the list goes on.

I THINK what you mean, maybe, is that in recent times the MOOD of HM has gotten very doomy, gloomy and bishroomie (sorry!)

, with a lot of bands focussing on the darker areas of life, but then the metal we knew in our youth (well, I did in mine) has now fragmented into so many different sub-genres --- doom, death, thrash, power, black, viking... again, the list goes on.

There are a lot of really good Heavy Metal bands still making "upbeat" music, like Dragonforce, Hammerfall etc, and of course Maiden are still around. I wouldn't say it's ALL dark...

Really good and Dragonforce does not a good sentence make. Metal diverged in the 80's. It is not a recent phenomonen, the scene just got muddier with good bands being even harder to spot and drag themselves from the quagmire.

~~The Unfan~~ · 10-20-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kranium666

Christian Jesus Metal... so stupid. It's like porn without f**ing

Considering Black Sabbath were a Christian band...

Piss Me Off · 04-15-2008, 01:21 PM

I don't think its always been like that, no. I was just wandering when you thought it became prominent.
What does NWOBHM stand for?

Rainard Jalen · 04-15-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off

I don't think its always been like that, no. I was just wandering when you thought it became prominent.
What does NWOBHM stand for?

I'm really not sure when it became prominent. Presumably long before Reign In Blood came out. But, I don't think metal was 90%+ enshrouded in morbidity of the utmost extreme until maybe some time in the 90s?

SATCHMO · 04-15-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off

What does NWOBHM stand for?

New Wave Of British Heavy Metal

Piss Me Off · 04-15-2008, 01:58 PM

I suppose Black Sabbath were into all that, not massively though. The earliest i can think is Led Zeppelin played backwards

I'm thinking probs late 80's/early 90's.

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Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,221	Christian Jesus Metal I'm disappointed with the satanism so frequent among MB metal fans. Not that I'm into religion or anything, but all this 666 skull & crossbone devil worship business, along with the anger and implied violence, is starting to make me queasy. Why are metal fans so often taken up with satan worship, pentagrams and general dark imagery? What's wrong with something like: In sum, why has metal been hijacked by the excessively bleak and morbid? Last edited by Rainard Jalen; 04-15-2008 at 12:50 PM.

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