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Old 04-15-2008, 05:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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There was a band in the late 60s / early 70s called Black Widow who took things much further than Sabbath ever did regarding satanic imagery.

In fact they used to do a mock sacrifice of a nude woman on stage every night.
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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well that's cool. had they tried going commercial with that do you think they could have indirectly pushed the mainstream in the same way sabbath did in that era?
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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According to their band history they did try to go commerical.


And got dropped by their record company

Their debut album did go top 40 , so it's not like they were total unknowns at the time , I guess they were just eclipsed by Sabbath over time.
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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not really surprised they got dropped. kind of surprising that their album hit the top 40 though. then again in the days before youtube and mtv crazy stage antics were mostly learned about through word of mouth. their songs were probably decent but they pushed a little too hard too soon. scaring the parents = success, scaring the kids = no one coming out to the shows.
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Metal ALWAYS carried some questionable imagery, even in the days of Hair Metal and stage theatrics. It was either intended to be offensive, bleak, or just too loud for the squares to handle Despite being the logical next step in the taboo, Satanic imagery isn't that rampant in metal... I could even go as far as to say it's confined to Black Metal nowadays. With the exception of say, Immolation or Incantation, Death Metal has always been rooted lyrically in the field of violence or horror, with little to no impact on their image or live shows. Grind is generally socio-politico or absurdly gorey/campy, and Thrash has it's left-handed moments, but they're not all Slayer or Dark Angel descendents.
It's always been stupid, but the counter bands are even worse.
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I have no problem with all the satanic imagery, just as long as it doesn't shape the quality of the music or take away from it.
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:34 PM   #17 (permalink)
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i think chruch should be seperated from music. So please stop with all the christian metal,punk,rap...ect.
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Well, music is about expressing yourself, beliefs and all. Separating it from Christianity kind of contradicts the purpose of music.
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i just find it so annoying
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Well, music is about expressing yourself, beliefs and all. Separating it from Christianity kind of contradicts the purpose of music.
This guy is right. I'm not Christian, but that doesn't stop me from listening to Bach's Sacred Cantatas. In fact, the religious aspect of it is what makes them so pure and beautiful.
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