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Old 03-30-2008, 08:07 PM   #41 (permalink)
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you can't compare them to U2 or sting. They were just doing their thing man.
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Old 03-30-2008, 08:10 PM   #42 (permalink)
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And U2 and Sting aren't doing theirs?


In my opinion being pretentious is making music that you yourself don't enjoy and can't get behind. If you put out 20 minutes of tape hiss but you love the **** out of it it's not pretentious, if you write pop songs because that's what you like than fine. I don't think pretentiousness can be accurately measured from the listeners point of view.
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Old 03-30-2008, 08:13 PM   #43 (permalink)
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But who are the most pretentious rock stars?
I say sting and U2.
I say the Ramones least because they just belted out songs and stayed the same and didin't try to be what they aint.
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Old 03-30-2008, 08:18 PM   #44 (permalink)
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And U2 and Sting aren't doing theirs?


In my opinion being pretentious is making music that you yourself don't enjoy and can't get behind. If you put out 20 minutes of tape hiss but you love the **** out of it it's not pretentious, if you write pop songs because that's what you like than fine. I don't think pretentiousness can be accurately measured from the listeners point of view.
That is true.
Like bands that sing for profit to a large extent.
But making gestures about lofty issues and doing charity gigs then doing exactly what they say we shouldn't is pretentious to me.
Like all these shows to save the planet when they put themselves up like that and then a music journo finds they fly loads and do stuff they don't need like fly their food in from abroad like U2 Madonna and Sting.
And they write songs about these issues too!
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Old 03-30-2008, 08:21 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Sounds like anyone in a state of privelege
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Old 03-30-2008, 08:26 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Not when they tell kids to do one thing then not do it themselves and gain self glory as been like holier then thou.
And sell records about bhow much they care and have PR people hiding stories about plane's bringing them in their favourite food because the UK doesn't supply it.
That is pretentious.
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Old 03-30-2008, 08:43 PM   #47 (permalink)
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People who use pretentious in their daily music conversations are quite pretentious for thinking they know other's intentions.

In my opinion being pretentious is making music that you yourself don't enjoy and can't get behind. If you put out 20 minutes of tape hiss but you love the **** out of it it's not pretentious, if you write pop songs because that's what you like than fine. I don't think pretentiousness can be accurately measured from the listeners point of view.
Wow, I was going to post something exactly like that! I'm not a huge fan of the word 'pretentious' for those reasons. People misuse it.


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Old 03-30-2008, 09:16 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I don't find anyone as pretentious, or as contrived as Stevie Ray Vaughan.

As for least pretentious, I'd have to say a band that seems somewhat self deprecating like Alice in Chains, or maybe Radiohead-they're really good, but not really full of themselves.
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:33 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I'm the most pretentious band in the world.
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:41 PM   #50 (permalink)
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This is true.
But you're not really good enough to be considered pretentious.
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