The UK invented Rock with The WHO
 

Prove me wrong?
Who was the first rock band if it wasn't The Who.
I claim the first real rock band for the UK.
Discuss all you envious Americans who have never bettered them.
We also invented Progressive Rock with pink floyd.
We also invented Heavy Metal with Black Sabbath.

The Americans invented hairspray rock!
Discuss with facts.

What about all the american garage rock bands?

For example The Sonics formed in 1960 and were just as raw & abrasive as The Who , if not more so.

I'm kind of curious to what your problem with the US doing anything before the UK is.

Not heard of Blue Cheer or Mountain then?

Marc Bolan? , Bowie ?

I think I did there

I'm curious as how you think Floyd is the first prog band

and how who is the first rock band

King Crimson, The Moody Blues...Tons more.

Not heard of Blue Cheer or Mountain then?

You what sonny Jim?
YOU WHAT???
What stadiums have they filled out and what great songs did they make?
The Who are in the hall of fame as the first rock band.
I'm talking about hard rock. Stadium rock.
Bowie and bolan were glam not hairspray rock.
I knock the US as they always take our lea and then come in late and copy our styles before big US record companies mass produce their versions of our movements.
Plus I like a good debate rather then simply agreeing.
Floyd were the first prog band.
(I say weakly)
The WHO WERE the first Hard Rock band who inspired Zeppelin and gave them their name.

Some of The Beatles' stuff dabbled in prog.

You do have a point there but the Beatles were listening to the floyd in Abbey road and that was their inspiration for Pepper as Lennon said.

You wanted to debate who was first not who was the most popular. And I mentioned them to counter your Sabbath argument , not The Who.
Same thing

Both copy from the other , Where do you think for example The Rolling Stones , The Yardbirds , The Beatles & other British acts got their ideas from. I'll give you a clue it was from early American Rock n Roll & Blues artists , Not Cliff Richard & Adam Faith which was what was popular in the UK when those bands first started.

So the Who were the first?
I knew Urban Hatemongrol would agree with me.
But hairspray rock isn't glam.
It is bands like poison.
Glam is Glam.

I'll quote it for you again because you seemed to have missed it

They weren't the first giant rock band to sell stadiums and invent what we know as hard rock.
Try better.

Being famous doesn't make you the creator of something. The Sonics were actually far more loud and abrassive sounding than The Who before The Who existed which means hard rock in some form before The Who. That should tell you that The Who didn't invent the genre.

The Rolling Stones , The Yardbirds , The Downliners Sect

Floyd wasn't one of the 5 first prog bands.

The whole point seems a little trivial whatever way one looks at it. At the end of the day, rock owes its existence to the American music that came before in the earlier 20th century.

Who knows what British music would have come to sound like were it not for the existence of jazz, the blues and so forth. My guess is probably nothing particularly like The Who.

I'd love you guys and girls to write a book about rock history.
It all began in a feild in Africa and developed from there.
the end

I am talking about definitive moments when things changed and became somtheing new. The who were mods which is a UK scene of very sharp arrogant proud hip types but they became rock n roll that inspired all the led zeppilen and then black sabbath and stadium rock. Forget music ancestory.
Like art is categorised into periods but all have to do with what went before and so does film making. Marlon Brando didn't invent method acting but he created it in history for us to see. That is how it got into the dictionary and became known.
Therefore looking back we only have names and dates and history because of him and it.
Who remembers ragtime music?
Why doesn't it have a section in this forum?
Because it is forgotton. Same with skiffle which was huge once. What took pop music as it was called and turned it into hard rock n roll then followed by the zeppilen et al?
THE WHO

It does , General Music.

You can start a thread about it there if you want

First i need to check whether the UK invented it!!!
ah ha ha
wheres the lynch mob?
tell them they'll have to que behind the others?
and all I wanted was to be popular!!
ah ha ha

I'm British and fact is, your wild claims are beginning to embarrass me.
As good as The Who are and as much as I like them, I have to say they didn't just invent Rock.
Genres aren't invented.

A word about The Who being mods...like The Who, the mod movement began with black American R&B.
They didn't "become rock n roll" either, the genuine mod types continued through Soul, Northern Soul and more loosely, Ska.

You really should do your homework ADELE, instead of making threads about something you only have a vague idea of, topped off with what appears to be your own imaginings.

Ok, so the sum and substance of your argument is not really about who INVENTED the sound, but rather who made it MATTER. And it's in that sense that you mean "invention".

In that case, you might be able to justify your position on The Who. But you should be more clear about what you are saying. The way you were phrasing it was as if to say that they invented the sound, the aesthetic and so forth, which is nonsense.

I do like her threads...they're brave.

My guess would be Rock & Roll, compared to, as the closest decade to todays age of modern rock. Would in my opinion be in & around the 50s. with the electric guitar, bass, etc. as guitar effects, reverb, overdrive, fuzz, etc. were added in the last 50yrs+. The Who, etc. was about 15yrs or so down the line. (In my opinion)

I think if anything, in regards to "My Generation", The Who would be the first punk band, not so much rock generally. Their antics on stage were just screaming "punk" especially with Keith Moon's destructive ass.

But most of their better known music just isn't particularly punky really.

Yeah I know...that's why I mentioned "My Generation" and their onstage act. Everything else really wasn't punk but those 2 things were the first of a movement.

-Peace, Love & Soul™

They wern't the first to do that or sound like that.

Yeah you do have a point but my talent lies in ideas and endeavors and spirit not been an editor or dictionary buff. I write off the cuff as I trust my instinct but therfore make errrors in presentation.

Also I am not a woman I am a Irishmon living in Kent!

Yeah I agree with that.
I think on reflection if we are all totally honest with ourselves the Who are probably the best live band ever. Certainly the first live band to do stadium rock.
I used to love "behind blue eyes" and still do but I've mellowed with age.
You could say the who were punk. I know your point about mods being american R&B.
Without wanting to sound in anyway patronising when you look at it rock n roll as we know it came about through black slavery and the artists that sang about what it was like. I really think that is true.
I mean all Rock n Roll. Inspired Elvis and the stones and the who and the Beatles etc etc and so on.
Watch the blues brothers when they go into Harlem or wherever to buy instruments!!! That is how it started.
But there are moments when a new era begins and all go that way. A signal post that changes the way we all go.
The Who definately made Hard Rock.

I never said you were a woman. That you were not was pretty obvious.

Jalen you sexist!!
So women can't like Punk and the Who?
Women can't express the opinion that the Who were the first hard rock band?
Someone said it not you.
Jalen you sexist. Assuming I wasn't a woman because I liked the Who and Pistols!!
I suppose next you are going to say women don't exactly dominate the world of top 100 Albums or critically aclaimed artists??
I would point you in the direction of a certain spice girls to quell that little opinion. If girl power wasn't the work of 5 music geniuses representing the creme of female talent and the words Bananarama mean nothing to you then you obviously need to educate yourself on the talent of females in pop history and rock.
I'm on form now good squire!

Hold up. What's all this foolish leaping to conclusions?

It was OBVIOUS you are not a woman because your BEHAVIOUR, yes, BEHAVIOUR on these boards, and DEMEANOUR, is completely masculine and characteristic of a male message board user.

I wasn't judging you by your musical tastes at all. And have no problem with "female artists dominating the top 1000 critically acclaimed artists lists" or whatever. What an absurd leap to an even more absurd conclusion.

What an absurd example.
The Spice Girls...geniuses!?
Bananarama???
Your having a laugh mate!

It's you who needs educating.
Any chance of me taking you even remotely serious on these boards has now disappeared completely.
With all the genuine talented female artists out there, you chose to pick the least talented women in the history of music. :laughing:

The Beatles were inspired by The Beach Boys and not Floyd to raise their game. McCartney has said this many times. Floyd just happened to be recording at the same time at Abbey Road. Rock Music is the blues amplified and distorted. Simple as that. No one can lay claim to being first.

Lighten up man!
Only joking.

I'm only kidding with you!!
No worries.
But you think I am controversial or silly?
Well look at best oasis song now and see what someone has said about Oasis been nothing after good start.
You see about stirring controversy and you see what I have to say about that.
Then say what you think.
Nothing after first two albums?
How silly can you be??

I'm only kidding Jalen!!
I noticed you said top 1000 when I said top 100!
It would have to be the top 1000 wouldn't it?
he he he
Women are great creatures in so many ways but they aint music makers.
How many great girl bands have there been in the history of music?
How many girl rock bands have their ever been?
Get me?

Yeah that is true.
When you are right 87% of the time you are wrong 13% of the time!!!!

Double posting is annoying. Quadruple posting is OTT. Merged.

I invented hard rock.

Discussion over.

Hopefully.

The fact of it all should be that UK Bands, The Who, Beatles, etc. has contributed a major role to the musical industry of today as it is. There is no end to debate's such as this one. All the classic bands, UK & US. Were pioneers within the history of ROCK. Regardless of personal opinions, favorites, etc. Including the best of the best, & the worst of the worst bands period, Peace.:band:

Eh, you're not so bad really. Sorry for being unnecessarily offensive.