The Official Nirvana/Kurt Cobain Thread (lyrics, rock, magazine, cover)

[ShadowSurfer]

Originally Posted by boo boo

Most rock starts do drugs, and herion is usualy the drug of choice.

I garantee you some of your favorite musicians do drugs...Hell i can name plenty popular musicians who are or were addicts or recovering addicts.

Yet its suddenly bad when Cobain does it.

...I didn't say it was bad because Cobain did it. I said, to be clear, Kurt was a suicidal heroin addict. You wanna say he killed himself over an article in Vanity Fair and the way the media portrayed him. I say that stuff was the least of his problems. His addiction to heroin is ultimately what killed him, as well as Layne Staley. Not so much what he read about himself in the press.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

I thought he died because he was always shooting his mouth off

[bungalow]

Originally Posted by boo boo

I think he both embraced it and despised it at the same time.

He liked the concept of being popular, or at least reaching out to the kind of people he related with, but he didnt like the concept of people either blowing his music out of proportion or misinterpreting it, he also had a strange problem with certain people who called themselves fans, like bigots, bullys, racists and homophobes, which inspired In Bloom.

One thing you should know right off the bat is that one of the primary reasons he killed himself in the first place was because of how he was looked upon in the media and how he fealt that his life was worthless after it had become completely public.

Yes a lot of people overrate Nirvana, but thats their problem, not Cobains...Yets it a national past time to blame Cobain for everything that his fans and the media say about Nirvana.

I cant stand people who use the following reasons for hating Nirvana.

1. They think Nirvana are overrated...And their definition of overrated is a band thats popular that they dont care for.
2. They dont like SLTS, which automaticaly means the rest of their catalog is shit.
3. They dont understand all the lyrics.
4. Cobain killed himself, and killing yourself is wrong.
5. No fancy guitar solos?...WTF.
6. They killed good rock...Like Poison and Warrant.
7. Cobain said that SLTS was his attempt at a Pixies song, which means that Nirvana were a direct ripoff of Pixies with absolutely no originality whatsoever.
8. They arent technical enough.
9. They werent super versatile, and they were actualy accessible, which we all know is a bad thing.
10. They dont like Cobain as a person.

I just wish these people would be sincere and give their real reason.

11. Hating them makes you look cool.

So basically everyone should like Nirvana, and if they say they don't, they are only doing so to look cool? That makes heaps of sense

[mosesandtherubberducky]

They still suck

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

12. They just bore me these days

sorry if thats a too 'cool' opinion to have

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

12. They just bore me these days

sorry if thats a too 'cool' opinion to have

Just wondering, but how could you possibly hate Nirvana when you listed them in the Urban 100?

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

I said on there i`d not listened to it in years but i liked it once.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

So basically everyone should like Nirvana, and if they say they don't, they are only doing so to look cool? That makes heaps of sense

No, its just that more or less, the only reason people even bother bashing Nirvana at every oppurtunity is to maintain some kind of non-conformist image.

But the fact that so many people have jumped on this "non-conformist" bandwagon has made them conformists in their own right.

[ShadowSurfer]

no, some people just think NIRVANA suck, the same way you think KISS sucks.

Its really that simple.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by ShadowSurfer

...I didn't say it was bad because Cobain did it. I said, to be clear, Kurt was a suicidal heroin addict. You wanna say he killed himself over an article in Vanity Fair and the way the media portrayed him. I say that stuff was the least of his problems. His addiction to heroin is ultimately what killed him, as well as Layne Staley. Not so much what he read about himself in the press.

"One of" is the key word.

He had been sent to rehab several times, he simply didnt have the will to live, drugs was part of the reason, his career and everything else was another part of it.