Belinda's looking well for her age :) Debbie though looks like a butch trucker nowdays.

Has anyone actually seen MBV's recent performances?


Pretty ****ing insane if you ask me.

if i was compiling one of those stupid f*cking 'ten things to do before you die' lists it would just be 'See MBV live' ten times. This is the first non-mobile phone-recorded footage i've seen, cheers lippy. Hooray for FX pedals! I bet Kev was really gutted after staying awake for a week in a feedback echo chamber and having Alan McGee shout down the phone at him before he discovered the little 'MBV' setting on his amp.

is there any news on the album reissues yet? I've not been able to find any

Kevin Shields now has enough effect pedals to recreate the sound off of "Loveless" but, I'm pretty sure it's a good several thousand dollars worth.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pedalsetup.jpg

your probably looking at about 3 grand if you bought them all new (not counting the rack mount stuff).

that live clip was really cool. the sound is great, don't get me wrong they really sound just like the album, but sounding too much like the album is a downer for me. that clip looks like the end of a show... listen to the crowd, polite applause, 2 or 3 cheers, pretty freaking tame.

there's nothing wrong with recreating an album on stage but you're also putting on a show, there's nothing wrong with pulling out all the stops during the outro vamp to a set either. i kept expecting some sort of avalanche of noise to finish things off, not the same buzzing drone as the disc. good but not great if it's actually the closer.

when i saw them they closed with 'you made me realise' (apparently they always do this) which bridged into what we timed as 20/25 minutes of noise before diving back into the song... i've recounted it already i believe but it was most definitely a sonic avalanche - we watched two people faint and hundreds of indie kids struggling to maintain their composure before their girlfriends made them leave. Pretty torturous yet magnificent upon completion, like the London marathon. i'd like to see a video of that

I have read up about the history of shoegaze; about how it went out of fashion, or was obliterated by "big" name rock-pop bands like the Verve, in the nineties and is now making a comeback, again in the indie realm. Is there any specific definition of what shoegazing entails, though, or is it, rather, less concrete; a sensibility? I've read that it is characterised by a non-gestural, "wooden" performance style and by lyrics that form part of the aesthetic sense of the music rather than making sense or being meaningful in the traditional sense. Still, this sort of definition seems rather vague. Could some of Animal Collective's work be characterised as "shoegaze", for example? Moreover, I have heard Deerhunter's recent album "Microcastle", which I have heard incorporates shoegaze. What about this music, specifically, could be seen as ascribing to the shoegaze aesthetic?

For me 'Shoegaze' is best described as 'melodious drone'. The lyrics can make sense a lot of the time but they are usually placed firmly down in the mix to almost become another instrument. The use of feedback and guitar effects is a given too. As for the Deerhunter album, I have it but cannot remember many elements of shoegaze but I'm not too familiar with the album.

There is a compilation that myself and a fellow member put together a few pages back in this thread which will give you a better sense of shoegaze.

Here you go:

http://www.musicbanter.com/indie-alt...tml#post578360

Thanks.