Metal Died With Dimebag
 

I kept waiting and waiting for it bounce back but, in my opinion, it just never did. Not that there aren't good metal bands out there right now... But, honestly, when is the last time ANYTHING truly great and original came out in the metal genre?

I guess part of it is my age and part of it is my preference for blues-based music (which doesn't seem to be "in" right now), but I just yawn every time I hear new "heavy" music.

The # 1 metal album on Amazon.com right now is from a bunch of cartoon characters called "Dethklok". (sigh)

Um, I don't like metal or look into it but I think treating it like Dimebag was the last "true metal" artist is pretty ignorant.

Dimebag was certainly not the "last" true metal artist (I never said that, did I?)... Guys like Iommi, Kerry King, Zakk Wylde are still the gods that they always were. I was speaking about the genre in general. Dimebag being martyred on stage was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

... That, and Ozzy doing a Pepsi commercial with Donnie and Marie Osmond. :banghead:

Look harder there are plenty of great Metal bands out there that play all different styles of Metal.

How about listening to metal bands beyond the stuff on headbanger's ball?

Is Headbanger's Ball still around? I watched that back in the 80's.

(Yawn)
Sure.
Like I said, there are good bands (Hatebreed comes to mind). I just think it's fading away. Every time I hear kids talk about Linkin Park, Avenged Sevenfold, or (God help us all) Finger Eleven as being "Heavy Metal" - I just get more discouraged.

I would NEVER give mtv one second of my time, sorry.

Fine, nevermind.

Long live Cartoon Network! :yeah:

Uh, I don't get it.

Dethklok is the #1 metal band on Amazon.com. They are a cartoon group on Adult Swim which is a late night series on Cartoon Network (See my original post).

Apparently this is the future of heavy metal.

...

On a another note, why not list a few 2006-2007 album releases that you think equal the likes of.... Let's say, Metallica's "...And Justice For All", Slayer's "Reign In Blood", Pantera's "Vulgar Display of Power", or Black Sabbath's "Paranoid"?

Or, list albums coming out this year that you think MIGHT turn things around for the genre??

(crickets chirping)

Seriously, though, I happen to love this music and I HOPE you can give me a list a mile long. :thumb:

lemmy is a million times more the metal icon than dimebag will ever be.

You're right. It takes a true icon to open for the Motley Crue reunion tour. :rofl:

Just kidding. I happen to like Overrated... I mean... Motorhead.

Who the fuk do you hang out with?


I could give you some pretty dope metal bands if you asked, that's what these boards are for.

that was clever,
especially coming from someone who idolizes the guitarist from damageplan, which is the ***est band in the world.

Just yankin' your chain, big guy.

"Chazz: Who'd win in a wrestling match, Lemmy or God?
Chris Moore: Lemmy.
[Bzzt]
Chris Moore: ... God?
Rex: Wrong, ****head, trick question. Lemmy *IS* God."

Consider yourself asked.:)

First thing, just because a band is made up of animated characters not even based off of real characters in life doesn't make it ridiculous. Although I wouldn't call them #1, Dethklok has some great songs.

Second, All these bands you're talking about that bring shame to metal began and sold out way before Dimebag died and have sucked just as much then as they do now. Dimebag's death had nothing to do with the "downfall" of metal. I wouldn't even say there is a downfall. Just a bunch of kids playing guitars pretending to do metal stealing the spotlight from the really good bands. Popularity is worthless. Just because there aren't any popular good new bands out there doesn't mean metal has died.

You say nothing ORIGINAL is coming out these days?
Listen to UNEXPECT. Quit your bitching.

The fact that you think hatebreed is good shows me that you haven't listened to much metal.

Bands that are positively shaping metal right now:

Unexpect
The Great Deceiver
Opeth
In Vain
Mastodon
Burst
Meshuggah
Ephel Duath
Genghis Tron
GOJIRA
Isis


There are honestly so many great innovative bands out right now, quit being ignorant and listen to them! :P

I agree with
Isis
Genghis Tron
and Mastadon

I don't know how much you already know about some of these so I'll just name a few

Pig Destroyer
UFOMAMMUT
Bastardass
****... I'm Dead
Emperor
King Diamond
Samael
Vio-Lence
A.M.G.O.D.
Eyehategod
Mercyful Fate
Sentenced
Impaled
Caustic Christ
Carcass
Napalm Death
Seige
Agorophobic Nosebleed
Autophagia
Gerneral Surgery
Impetigo (god I haven't listened to them in so long)
Anal **** (hilarious band)
Extreme Noise Terror (probably my fav on the list so far)
Nasum
Bathtub ****ter
Phobia
Bucket Full of Teeth
Charles Bronson

Your opinion died when you made this thread.

Spiritual Beggars
Electric Wizard
Sleep (not exactly "today" but they're awesome)
Graves At Sea
Goatsnake
Cathedral
Boris
High On Fire
Pelican
Yob
Place Of Skulls

A few picks from my neck of the woods, High On Fire are a must check out if you were to ask me.

I don't think the music of post-Vulgar-Display Dimebag or any of his associated acts was particularly riveting either.

There's still quite a bit of decent heavy music out there. All ya have to do is look hard. European underground metal has plenty to offer.

I've got Azureus working overtime on some of these bands you guys have mentioned. Hopefully, I will find a new "torch-bearer" for the genre (Personally, I'm rooting for Bathtub ****ter - I bet they are the next Judas Priest :)).


P.S. What's with all the Hatebreed negativity? I can't think of one reason why they WOULDN'T be considered "good"... Please enlighten me. :crazy:

HE WAS NOT MARTYRED!

Wrong place, wrong time.

Go listen to Hellyeah. Dimebag was a great guitarist, but there are hundreds of bands that are a million times better than Pantera/Damageplan and have been putting out quality records ever since.

Hellyeah is alright. I think Mudvayne is a pretty good band. I'm not saying that there no more good bands out there... I guess one would have to actually have been alive and aware during the golden age of metal (1980-1991) to know what I am looking for.

Why would metal die? There will always be demand for a heavier more cathartic music even if its not the "in" music.

Perhaps the future of popular metal but not the real undergrond scene. If it did than instead of Black Metal and Death Metal, we all be stacking Limp Biskit CDs next to our Kiss records.

The "true" metal scene will never die because of its rabid fanbase and what metal represents.

considering they took their sound from Arcturus, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, and Ulver, I don't find them to be very original at all.

UPDATE:

I just finished listening to Unexpect's "In A Flesh Aquarium" while I walked my dog...

What a horrible piece of crap! It's as if The Great Kat (minus the talent) decided to cover SOAD with substandard instruments and production. The song "Silence 011010701" reminded me of that episode of "Friends" where Ross plays the keyboard. (gag) Just the fact that it reminded me of FRIENDS (FOR GOD"S SAKE!)... I hope you were pulling my leg about this one. I've taken ****s that came out sounding better than this CD!

Needless to say, it made a fantastic frizbee - I pity the poor s.o.b. who finds it... in fact, I hope it broke when it hit the ground.

Anyway, the search continues...

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner! An actual Dethklok fan!

Thank you for proving my point.

You should check out this old band called Spinal Tap. I mean, just because they are fictional characters who actually seem to make fun of the music they perform doesn't mean that they aren't a kick-ass metal band, right? You'll probably like them... Although, I must warn you, the drums in their music are pretty weak. They just can't seem to keep a decent drummer in the group. :p:

If you think metal died with Dimebag then you don't get very deep in looking for good metal...especially if you consider Hatebreed a great metal band (I don't mind them, just too generic as someone said...nothing real creative)

Recommendations:
Opeth
Between The Buried And Me
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Death (old band as well, but maybe you've never heard em...there great especially when they get more into proggy death metal)
Baroness
Mastodon
Gojira

Don't know if this is your cup of tea but if you enjoy post-metal which I'm a huge fan of check out these bands:
Isis
Neurosis
Pelican--AMAZING
Red Sparrowes
Jesu
Cult of Luna
Rosetta
Mouth of the Architect

And what point is that?

Saying that metal died along with Dimebag is basically saying that there were/are no great metal bands since Damagaplan. Stupid.

I miss Chuck. He was awesome. I used play Spiritual Healing so loud my ears would ache afterwards.

Thanks for the other recommendations (ditto to everyone who listed bands). I like Mastodon and Gojira already, also a few of the others. I'll keep checking back with updates on the rest.

"Transforming your mind from the inside out
Overcoming fear that made you doubt
Observing what is stored in the subconscious
Trusting what you feel with your gut responses

See past the dark and use your energy
Learn from these images
Thoughts that we call dreams

This power lies within the mind
Gain wisdom through abilities
Change what's to come in future time
Avoiding pain and misery

Look through the fake from what is real
Making desicions by what you feel
Live for the future and not the past
The weak of mind will never last

Perceiving visions that reoccur
Analyse your dreams to gain
A better perspective of your life
In control of your destiny with mind and soul

See past the dark and use your energy
Learn from these images
Thoughts that we call dreams

This power lies within the mind
Gain wisdom through abilities
Change what's to come in future time
Avoiding pain and misery"
- Within The Mind, DEATH

Awesome, awesome song. R.I.P.

The point: If the #1 selling metal album is from fictional, animated characters from Cartoon Network - and they actually have so-called metal fans calling their songs "great" (that's where you came in) - then that leads me to believe that something is seriously WRONG with the genre.

To further illustrate the point lets look at history, shall we?

Hottest metal albums by year:

1980 Ace of Spades - Motorhead
1981 Diary of a Madman - Ozzy Osbourne
1982 Number of the Beast - Iron Maiden
1983 Holy Diver - Dio
1984 Ride the Lightning - Metallica
1985 Bonded By Blood - Exodus
1986 Master of Puppets - Metallica
1987 Among The Living - Anthrax
1988 ...And Justice For All - Metallica
1989 Beneath The Remains - Sepultura
1990 Seasons in the Abyss - Slayer
1991 self-titled - Metallica
1992 Vulgar Display of Power - Pantera
1993 Undertow - Tool
1994 Far Beyond Driven - Pantera
1995 Astro-Creep: 2000 - White Zombie
1996 Aenima - Tool
1997 The More Things Change... - Machine Head
1998 Follow The Leader - Korn
1999 The Gathering - Testament
2000 Clayman - In Flames
2001 Iowa - Slipknot
2002 The Art of Balance - Shadows Fall
2003 The Impossibility Of Reason - Chimaira
2004 Leviathan - Mastodon

(Dimebag Darrell dies Dec. 8, 2004)

2005 Ghost Reveries - Opeth
2006 Inhuman Rampage - Dragonforce
2007 The Dethalbum - Dethklok

... and, yes, I know people will bitch about Korn/Slipknot/Tool not being "real metal". Spare me.

I'm still not seeing the correlation between Dimebag dying and the supposed and debatable decline in the quality of metal.

Well how else do you think Motley Crue are going to fill a venue.

Hahaha I fucking reckon.

Motorhead are awesome.