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08-15-2007, 04:52 AM | #11 (permalink) |
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There are so many more genres around now, because metal has diversified so much.. some genres which now play a big part have only emerged in the past 5 years or so. 'post-metal' for example didnt really exist before Neurosis' Sun That Never Sets / Isis' Oceanic... but its now a useful term to describe hundreds of bands.
There are huge differences in sounds.. Khanate sound nothing like Dragonforce for example, and its unlikely that anyone will enjoy listening to both.. but theyre both referred to as 'metal'... genres make it easier to find something you may like. Another point is that the big influences are disappearing.. 10 years or so ago, almost every metal band was directly influenced by Slayer/Metallica/Sabbath/floyd.. although alot of bands still are, There are far more now who are influenced by a more varied selection of later bands... the metal bands i know barely listen to any of the above... they're influences are from bands like Botch, Neurosis, Carcass, Earth, Electric Wizard etc who all took metal a step further... and the new bands are taking it further again.
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08-15-2007, 05:35 AM | #12 (permalink) | |
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Black Death Doom/Gothic Folk/Viking Heavy/Alt Industrial Metalcore/Nu Power/Symphonic Prog/Experimental Thrash Post-metal goes into my post rock/metal folder which is given equal status with rock, metal, jazz etc. I do break some subgenres up further - death is broken up into blackened, melodic, technical and brutal/grind. Notice that melodic death is actually a subgenre of death, whereas blackened death is a combination of black and death (bands like Behemoth, Abominator etc.). But before anyone goes ahead and says that's ridiculous, they have to remember it's not ridiculous to someone who knows these genres well, and has 170 GB of metal alone. A stoner doom band is a universe away from a funeral doom band.
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08-15-2007, 07:55 AM | #13 (permalink) |
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^^ agreed. i only have about 30gb of mp3s at the mo, divided into:
post-rock & shoegaze indie & folk avant-garde & noise black & doom crust & grind sludge & post-metal emo & post-hardcore SD releases Genres only couse problems when people dont know what they're talking about.
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08-15-2007, 08:32 AM | #14 (permalink) |
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don't get me wrong, i will still use genres to describe something to someone i don't think will close their ears once i say 'indie' or 'electronica' or 'classical'.
the first thing i do when i d/l a new album is strip the genre tag. my itunes has a total of 0 genres |
08-15-2007, 02:48 PM | #15 (permalink) | |
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Kamelot-talk about cheese! That was awful commercial twaddle. Wormed-give me Carcass anyday! You see I would'nt call Kamelot (sic) metal at all. Just commercial rock.
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08-15-2007, 02:57 PM | #16 (permalink) |
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Categories and genres are important. When you have a solid classification system, you can get a clear understanding of what kind of music you like and what kind of bands to look for.
But nowadays its gotten a little out of hand, with a bunch of kids thinking that it's necessary to come up with a new genre for every band in existence. Hence the 12 billion metal sub-genres there are now. |
08-15-2007, 03:18 PM | #17 (permalink) |
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If it wasn't for metal kids getting their knickers in a twist over sub-sub-sub genres ,we wouldn't have such amusing threads as this one...
http://www.musicbanter.com/rock-meta...tml#post346462 I think it becomes apparent after a few posts that they are either making this up as they go along or they have no idea what the hell they are talking about.
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08-15-2007, 03:34 PM | #18 (permalink) |
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i disagree. its an interesting discussion.. they all know their fair bit but The Unfan and Riseagainst obviously know most about the (well established) genre.
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08-15-2007, 03:42 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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Funeral Doom?
My my my. They can't even come up with names that don't sound completely ridiculous anymore. |
08-15-2007, 04:01 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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Funeral Doom has been around for years!
'Funeral Doom bands' [doom-metal.com] 1000 Funerals AHAB Amaranthine Trampler Asunder Austerity Before The Coruscating Apollyon Believe in Nothing Beprasmybe Beyond Black Void Bosque Celestiial Colosseum Comatose Vigil Consummatum Est Craving, The Dark Abyss Despond Dictator Dionysian DOOM:VS Doomcide DoomSquirrel DoomThrone Dusk Ov Shadows Ea Eleventh Room, the Endymion Enoch Ethereal, the EtonéDicius Fragments Of Duration Funeral Funeral Orchestra, the Funeralium Funerary Dirge Fungoid Stream Grívf Hierophant Hymn Of Lament Hyponic I Drowned In A Stream Of Mourn Iniquitous Intaglio Inter Arbores Iota Draconis Kairi Lacrymae Rerum Lake Of Depression Liquescent Horror, The Longing For Dawn Lord Grief Lux Incerta Maiden Voyage MausoleuM Midwinter Storm Misery Monolithe Mournful Congregation Mørkheim Nepenthean Night Must Fall Night Of Suicide Nortt Of Darkness Oktor Pantheist Qabr Quasar Reclusiam Reido Remembrance Rigor Sardonicous Sad Sun, The Senthil Serenity Forgotten Shape Of Despair Sinistra Skepticism Solicide Stabat Mater Tears Of A Mourning Angel Thergothon This Empty Vessel Through the Valley TOMB Torture Wheel Tragedy Eternal Tyranny Unholy Cross Until Death Overtakes Me Whelm Wind Through The Trees Witchthrone Wormphlegm Worship Wraith Of The Ropes
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