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Muzak 08-15-2007 05:02 PM

I <3 Candlemass

that is cool that you saw them back in 89.

jackhammer 08-15-2007 05:14 PM

Yeah it was at Hammersmith Odeon in London, and that you tube track just reminded me how bad they were! The music is tolerable, but those vocals drive me insane! Did you hear Candlemass before Sabbath at all? If I had heard these first I would have probably been into these instead, but next to Sabbath-it's just a rehash! It's only an opinion though.

---It can vary in pretty much any way! Classical music is influencing some bands (listen to Kayo Dot).---

I really like Kayo Dot and that is where a genre tag is justified.

boo boo 08-15-2007 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sound Devastation (Post 388586)
Funeral Doom has been around for years!

'Funeral Doom bands' [doom-metal.com]

1000 Funerals

AHAB
Amaranthine Trampler
Asunder
Austerity

Before The Coruscating Apollyon
Believe in Nothing
Beprasmybe
Beyond Black Void
Bosque

Celestiial
Colosseum
Comatose Vigil
Consummatum Est
Craving, The

Dark Abyss
Despond
Dictator
Dionysian
DOOM:VS
Doomcide
DoomSquirrel
DoomThrone
Dusk Ov Shadows

Ea
Eleventh Room, the
Endymion
Enoch
Ethereal, the
EtonéDicius

Fragments Of Duration
Funeral
Funeral Orchestra, the
Funeralium
Funerary Dirge
Fungoid Stream

Grívf

Hierophant
Hymn Of Lament
Hyponic

I Drowned In A Stream Of Mourn
Iniquitous
Intaglio
Inter Arbores
Iota Draconis

Kairi

Lacrymae Rerum
Lake Of Depression
Liquescent Horror, The
Longing For Dawn
Lord Grief
Lux Incerta

Maiden Voyage
MausoleuM
Midwinter Storm
Misery
Monolithe
Mournful Congregation
Mørkheim

Nepenthean
Night Must Fall
Night Of Suicide
Nortt

Of Darkness
Oktor

Pantheist

Qabr
Quasar

Reclusiam
Reido
Remembrance
Rigor Sardonicous

Sad Sun, The
Senthil
Serenity Forgotten
Shape Of Despair
Sinistra
Skepticism
Solicide
Stabat Mater

Tears Of A Mourning Angel
Thergothon
This Empty Vessel
Through the Valley
TOMB
Torture Wheel
Tragedy Eternal
Tyranny

Unholy Cross
Until Death Overtakes Me

Whelm
Wind Through The Trees
Witchthrone
Wormphlegm
Worship
Wraith Of The Ropes

Many of those band names are so laughably bad to the extent that I'm convinced you made all of them up.

jackhammer 08-15-2007 05:59 PM

Yeah but to be fair OZRIC TENTACLES is a terrible band name ..and I love them!

The Unfan 08-15-2007 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 388632)
Many of those band names are so laughably bad to the extent that I'm convinced you made all of them up.

If it helps I can upload albums from most of those bands.

Seltzer 08-15-2007 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 388580)
Funeral Doom? :laughing:

My my my. They can't even come up with names that don't sound completely ridiculous anymore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 388572)
If it wasn't for metal kids getting their knickers in a twist over sub-sub-sub genres ,we wouldn't have such amusing threads as this one...

http://www.musicbanter.com/rock-meta...tml#post346462

I think it becomes apparent after a few posts that they are either making this up as they go along or they have no idea what the hell they are talking about.

Of course the term 'funeral doom' is going to sound stupid to you guys since you probably don't listen to any doom. But it has been around for a long time and is worthy of a genre tag. Funeral doom is an apt title... I don't listen to that much of it, but some of it is strikingly beautiful.

E.g. funeral doom might be to doom what the Canterbury scene is to prog.



Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 388622)
Yeah it was at Hammersmith Odeon in London, and that you tube track just reminded me how bad they were! The music is tolerable, but those vocals drive me insane! Did you hear Candlemass before Sabbath at all? If I had heard these first I would have probably been into these instead, but next to Sabbath-it's just a rehash! It's only an opinion though.

I don't think Candlemass sounds like a rehash of Sabbath, but I can see why you might think that if you don't listen to much doom. Candlemass has always had a very epic sort of sound. The real Sabbath clones are to be found in traditional/stoner doom. I like Messiah but I can see how he would get on some people's nerves. I actually prefer the vocals on Epicus Doomicus Metallicus - the vocalist there was a session pop singer. :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 388591)
I understand that we have to give broad genre descriptions, that's a given. I just don't understand how many more genres are popping along every week. One of the latest I have heard is BATTLE METAL-for god's sake where does this crap come from? DRAGONFORCE are an exponent, and all they are doing is speeding up bands like HELLOWEEN, it's not original at all, so why the genre tag.

Yeah, battle metal is a stupid genre tag. I think it started as a bit of a joke term when Turisas released an album by that title. :laughing:

Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 08-15-2007 11:13 PM

I lump all my favorite metal bands into the following just to keep it simple. Mainly for the purpose of organizing my cd case and nothing more.

Nu-metal (This includes Alternative Metal)
Metalcore
Deathcore
Grindcore
Heavy Metal
Thrash Metal
Power Metal
"Dark" Metal (Not a genre name, of course, but includes Black Metal, Symphonic Metal, Gothic Metal, and eventually Doom Metal)
Death Metal (Includes both melo and brutal, and the in between).

As far as progressive metal goes, I have very VERY few of them, and I'll throw them in whatever genre I hear most from.


I don't look down on any particular genre, and I'm not arrogant enough to deny that there are generic bands in all genres. Every genre has knock offs. I just draw the line somewhere. Like, for instance, I would most likely favor any Death metal band, generic or not, over any nu-metal band everytime, and I'll most likely look at every nu-metal band and say "typical nu-garbage", yet my favorite band overall happens to be a nu-metal band (Disturbed). I'll go to shows that headline a band I love but have various hardcore acts following them who all play the same ****ing breakdowns everytime and I'll b*tch about it, BUT then I'll put in All That Remains or Elysia in my Cd player and rock out with my **** out.

I guess what I'm trying to say is while I use genres mainly to organize my cd's, I'll use them in order to find music I like and avoid music I don't like. Odds are I'm gonna find more bands I like in Death Metal than in nu-metal because of innovation and technicality. I go with the odds.

It's kind of how when I'm going through a bad neighborhood and I see a group of black guys, my white man instincts will tell me to avoid them, but I won't condemn an entire race because of that.


I've read this and I will understand if you call me a retard. I kind of babble on now and then. I'll give you a dollar if you understand what I'm saying.

boo boo 08-16-2007 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 388635)
Yeah but to be fair OZRIC TENTACLES is a terrible band name ..and I love them!

Yeah it is... But prog band names are just ridiculous.

Metal band names however are appalling. Fragments Of Duration? WTF is that bullsh*t?

I also wouldn't compare this thing to the Canterbury scene, since for one the Canterbury scene was more of a movement among musicians from a certain area who just happened to know each other and play in each others bands than it was a genre distinguished by a certain sound.

Seltzer 08-16-2007 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 388735)
Yeah it is... But prog band names are just ridiculous.

Metal band names however are appalling. Fragments Of Duration? WTF is that bullsh*t?

I also wouldn't compare this thing to the Canterbury scene, since for one the Canterbury scene was more of a movement among musicians from a certain area who just happened to know each other and play in each others bands than it was a genre distinguished by a certain sound.

Fine... symphonic prog then... space rock - whatever works. :D

As much as I love prog, I've never really understood Canterbury as a label anyway.

jackhammer 08-16-2007 05:21 PM

Can we start a list of all metal/Rock related genres please? So far:

Heavy Metal
Thrash Metal
Speed Metal
Power Metal
Glam Metal
Death Metal
Prog Metal
Nu Metal
Rap Metal
Metalcore
Pomp Rock
Progressive Rock
Doom Metal
Funeral Doom
Space Rock
Psychedelic Rock
Deathcore
Grindcore
Gothic Metal
Battle Metal
Southern Rock
Black Metal
Symphonic Metal
Viking Metal


I KNOW I have missed loads! I'm not the biggest indie fan, but it has no subgenres, and covers a HUGE musical spectrum. QFT.


Stoner Rock
Sludge Metal


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