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Old 08-08-2007, 03:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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haha this is great boo boo

"how much money do you make peddling this crap mr.zappa?

millions of dollars mr, novak, millions!"
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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violent films, tv shows, and music undoubtedly have an impact on violence in the real world. These things desensitize people from a young age and devalue human life. Therefore, children grow up not recognizing the extreme that taking someones one life or hurting them badly is. They don't realize that it has a real world effect. Well, it isn't that they dont realize it, its just that the effect that it has is not shocking anymore. We've become accustomed to hearing about murder and abuse so we don't think twice about it. This most likely explains why Voice_of_the_Soul121301 thinks that the torture of children en masse is natural. And that thier brutal deaths are inevitable, and justifiable as long as it benefits him.

maybe it seems like i was taking a cheap shot here, but i type my entire reply to this thread and realized how relevant that is. I see Voice of the Soul opine about nothing other than violent death/black/whatever-the f*ck you want to call it metal music, and find that his personal philosophies are almost certainly derived from this crap. Devaluing of human life, voice is a good example I think.

But, it is art and it shouldn't be censored.
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Old 08-08-2007, 06:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
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This is an awesome video of Frank Zappas guest appearance on Crossfire in 86, debating music censorship. I think it's relevant. Enjoy.

Youtube - Frank Zappa on Crossfire

EDIT: Take note of the conservative douchebag blaming rock music for incest.
Levi posted that awhile ago, it was great. What you wanna spank me here? Frank Zappa<3333
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Old 08-08-2007, 07:33 PM   #14 (permalink)
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haha this is great boo boo

"how much money do you make peddling this crap mr.zappa?

millions of dollars mr, novak, millions!"
this stuff* mr lofton*

You oughta get out more.
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Yeah, he mispronounced "Mothers of Invention" as "Mothers of the Invention". What a n00b.
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Old 08-08-2007, 08:51 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Music doesn't hurt people, I do.
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:46 AM   #19 (permalink)
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violent films, tv shows, and music undoubtedly have an impact on violence in the real world. These things desensitize people from a young age and devalue human life. Therefore, children grow up not recognizing the extreme that taking someones one life or hurting them badly is. They don't realize that it has a real world effect. Well, it isn't that they dont realize it, its just that the effect that it has is not shocking anymore. We've become accustomed to hearing about murder and abuse so we don't think twice about it. This most likely explains why Voice_of_the_Soul121301 thinks that the torture of children en masse is natural. And that thier brutal deaths are inevitable, and justifiable as long as it benefits him.

maybe it seems like i was taking a cheap shot here, but i type my entire reply to this thread and realized how relevant that is. I see Voice of the Soul opine about nothing other than violent death/black/whatever-the f*ck you want to call it metal music, and find that his personal philosophies are almost certainly derived from this crap. Devaluing of human life, voice is a good example I think.

But, it is art and it shouldn't be censored.
Firstly, I didn't start listening to music until about 8th grade. and even then, it was all dumbed-down ****. The most metal-y thing I was listening to was Disturbed, and no way does Disturbed instigate violence.

Secondly, I don't derive my philosophies on life from music, metal or otherwise. I THINK; You're alone alot like me, and you think.

Y'know, I'm actually getting sick of arguing with either you or that Crow-dude who I guess is Ethan on this board (saw the name in some places). All it is is just spam. So I'll just leave it with this; Video Games, Television, and any other form of media, as far as children are concerned, I will admit do have an influence, but in this case they are still not to blame. Kids have little knowledge of free will at this time, and they rely so much on their parents. So if their parents let their kids watch violent movies or play violent games or listen to the violent metal music of today, and those kids turn into another Otaku killer or another Virginia Tech massacrer, it's their fault.
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Old 08-09-2007, 12:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Haha awesome saying, I'm going to remember that one.
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