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Old 08-11-2007, 12:28 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Then move. Not being able to ruins it for other people.
That's easier said than done. When you're cramped in a tiny venue, the reality is some people are going to have to be on the inside of the outer ring... these are the people who the moshers end up mangling because they start to occupy more and more space as the show goes on.

And I have to go somewhere not too far from the front because I'm shorter and I can't see otherwise.
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Ah, I suppose. Yeah, though I do like moshing every so often it bugs me when people start **** or try getting people involved when they clearly don't want to be.
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:49 AM   #33 (permalink)
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you know whether or not there's going to be moshing/dancing at a show before you even go (by the bands present). if you do go, don't bitch about getting hit, regardless of the venue size. i honestly don't understand why people would go to a metal/hardcore show and not dance/mosh. stand around and listen to a band play songs off their record at a lower quality.

sounds awesome.
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Old 08-11-2007, 05:53 PM   #34 (permalink)
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you know whether or not there's going to be moshing/dancing at a show before you even go (by the bands present). if you do go, don't bitch about getting hit, regardless of the venue size. i honestly don't understand why people would go to a metal/hardcore show and not dance/mosh. stand around and listen to a band play songs off their record at a lower quality.

sounds awesome.
You're right. I mean, I could have just sat home and listened to Gwar and still get the same satisfaction that I would get at their show..... getting covered in blood and piss.

That's what's great about shows; You get to SEE the band you're listening to.

But I do agree with you; You gotta weigh the benefits and the drawbacks; do you want to see the band alot more than you don't want to get hit, or vice versa?
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Old 08-11-2007, 06:00 PM   #35 (permalink)
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--you know whether or not there's going to be moshing/dancing at a show before you even go (by the bands present). if you do go, don't bitch about getting hit, regardless of the venue size. i honestly don't understand why people would go to a metal/hardcore show and not dance/mosh. stand around and listen to a band play songs off their record at a lower quality.--

That's rubbish, you can see a band in any size venue and stand back and appreciate (or not) them. I am far too old and conscious of my fantastic good looks to get into a mosh these days. Does'nt mean I cannot enjoy a band.

Who says the music is lower quality? I would say that rock bands are infinitely better when they are live.

I am not saying get rid of mosh's, far from it; what I am saying is that you don't have to get a black eye to appreciate a band.
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Old 08-11-2007, 06:55 PM   #36 (permalink)
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you know whether or not there's going to be moshing/dancing at a show before you even go (by the bands present). if you do go, don't bitch about getting hit, regardless of the venue size. i honestly don't understand why people would go to a metal/hardcore show and not dance/mosh. stand around and listen to a band play songs off their record at a lower quality.

sounds awesome.
By that logic I might as well chuck on the music in my bedroom and dance in the safety of my own home... or do the same, but chuck a few inflatable dolls which spring back into position, in my room and mosh with them...

I go to a live show because it's unreal to simply see my favourite bands in real life... and if the band is a decent live band, they're better than they are on CD.
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I agree that some bands can be better live than on album. I agree that you can enjoy some bands without dancing, though personally my greatest satisfaction at (hardcore) shows comes from ninja-ing it up to a br00tal breakdown and two-stepping to a groovy beat; when I hear either I just have to move. I agree that regardless of venue size, there is always a safe place to stand. I agree that Gwar is a completely different experience live as opposed to on album.

In conclusion, some of you need to learn how to use semi-colons and colons before you start inserting them like there's no tomorrow.
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Old 08-12-2007, 06:05 AM   #38 (permalink)
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This is an awesome video of Frank Zappas guest appearance on Crossfire in 86, debating music censorship. I think it's relevant. Enjoy.

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EDIT: Take note of the conservative douchebag blaming rock music for incest.
heh ive seen that before, that guy is a legend.
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I agree that some bands can be better live than on album. I agree that you can enjoy some bands without dancing, though personally my greatest satisfaction at (hardcore) shows comes from ninja-ing it up to a br00tal breakdown and two-stepping to a groovy beat; when I hear either I just have to move. I agree that regardless of venue size, there is always a safe place to stand. I agree that Gwar is a completely different experience live as opposed to on album.

In conclusion, some of you need to learn how to use semi-colons and colons before you start inserting them like there's no tomorrow.
I'll use my colon however I want...... or something along those lines.
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After seeing that video Frank Zappa is my new hero. Now I need to download more albums from him.
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