Someone please explain the appeal of RATM? (singer, techno, bass)

~~The Unfan~~ · 06-03-2007, 11:51 AM

I seriously don't understand how the single worst band in music history is so loved. Please give me some insight.

jackhammer · 06-03-2007, 12:12 PM

Thier simplicity-DRUMS BASS VOICE GUITAR. Their music is so tight, it almost sounds live. Each band member is extremely good at what they do. Their music has always had a socio-political leaning, and this never changed until they split up, despite their massive success. Every album is well produced but still sounds raw. They also made a refreshing change to the endless thrash bands that sounded like each other-a great way to get a big riff fix!

~~The Unfan~~ · 06-03-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Thier simplicity-DRUMS BASS VOICE GUITAR. Their music is so tight, it almost sounds live. Each band member is extremely good at what they do. Their music has always had a socio-political leaning, and this never changed until they split up, despite their massive success. Every album is well produced but still sounds raw. They also made a refreshing change to the endless thrash bands that sounded like each other-a great way to get a big riff fix!

So terrible rap-rock riffing with a guy who noodles with pedals and a guy who screams about ill informed politics all in a nicely produced bundle package ready to sound clean like Limp Bizkit? Sounds like a bad idea.

Besides, those thrash bands were actually good.

boo boo · 06-03-2007, 01:11 PM

Get off your pretentious "I hate posers" high horse, proggie.

I didn't want to go into detail why I like Rage. I just do.

I understand that you're not one for bands like Rage and Zep. And you prefer more skilled and refined groups like Rush and PT. But Rage do have a massive appeal for people who may not be sastified with rehashed prog (you) or tiresome Kinks ripoff melodies (Urban), aside from not sounding even remotely like Limp Bizkit in anyway, they don't share the same fans with them either. Most RAGE fans are not 12 year old posers who think songs like "Down with the Sickness" and "Bodies" are super hardcore, which is what you seem to think. Rage fans I know range from punk fans to metalheads to proggies and even indie kids. They're just a good band.

People like their sound for a lot of reasons. Morello, Commerford and Delp are all good musicians, Morello has an especially original and appealing guitar style, his style is not very technical, but he has proven himself to be very skilled, he dosen't use any fancy technology to achieve those effects either. Just one crappy f*cking effects pedal is all he uses, and if you think a cheap fuzz box will automatically make you capable of crafting solos like Take the Power Back and Settle for Nothing then you got another thing coming. He designs and develops his own effects and tones, he's quite the soundsmith and overall he's a musician who knows exactly what he wants, I don't care if you hate his music, he's still worthy of some respect.

As for Zack. Well obviously not a great singer in any technical sense of the world, but he has an awesome delivery. He has a very original sounding voice too.

Overall RATM should by no means be put in the same category as Nu Metal bands like Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, even though they do deserve some of the blame for influencing these bands. Overall I think they are the only band ever to truly make the whole Metal/Funk/Rap crossover concept work.

~~The Unfan~~ · 06-03-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Get off your pretentious "I hate posers" high horse, proggie.

Baseless attack for the loss?

boo boo · 06-03-2007, 01:38 PM

That was suposed to be ironic.

And theres no loss. This technically isn't even an argument. Your only counterpoints are "well RATM sucks" and I'm simply trying to explain why some people have a different opinion from yours.

almauro · 06-04-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

As for Zack. Well obviously not a great singer in any technical sense of the world, but he has an awesome delivery. He has a very original sounding voice too.

He sounded like Chris Rock...except he was acutally funny. Particularly during is faux screams of rage. Also, don't care too much for Morello's chops. Way to cutesy for a metal band. Both of these guys in tandem make RATM dated.

boo boo · 06-05-2007, 12:30 AM

Oh my... "He wasn't atually pissed off about something when he did that scream, I can sooooooooooo tell, and believe me if he wasnt actually mad, it ruins the whole performance, omg he sux, wheres the pashion people? I think I'll listen to Geddy Lee sing songs about Mark Twain fiction over a synthesizer. Go Geddy go, hit those high notes"

Also Chris Rock was funny.

Travis Coats · 06-05-2007, 03:15 PM

They have a few good ones, but that it.........I mean it

boo boo · 06-03-2007, 12:13 PM

I have a better question, what is the appeal of your existance?

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Travis Coats Groupie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 15	They have a few good ones, but that it.........I mean it