Well, then remain ignorant. It's all very well that you've listened to metal before a lot of people, but that causes bias. You might know about old DM but you don't know about new. If death metal hasn't changed its sound, why would old DM loyalists exist?

Nile is quite different to most death metal bands lyrically like you said. But their sound is different too... They're obsessed with Egyptian things and it shows - Egyptian scales, ambience, vocals etc... Also, their method of using dual vocals is quite uncommon. I don't know how you can say Nile is not at all original.

Check out Karl Sander's solo stuff which borders on ambient and isn't metal at all - then you'll understand why Nile sounds different to other death metal bands.

My main problem with Nile is that they get repetitive, but they are good otherwise.

wait....wait......what?

Bands still push limits within metal. You guys are just too lazy to find the right bands.

Anyone here a fan of Boris?

Extreme Noise Terror were using two distinctly different vocalists a long time ago, and I don't think I am remaining ignorant. I also have a friend who knows so much more than me, he's 40 and still regulary goes to gigs and he thinks NILE are awful too. The whole let's go as fast as we can has been done to absolute death. They may be big in America but their following isn't as big here because we have heard this sort of thing years ago.I will check out the guitarist though on your advice Seltzer.

Mastodon, Lamb Of God, Gojira, Dog Fashion Disco are some of the bands I've got into recently that DO sound different. If there are more please point me to them by all means, would love to hear new stuff.

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They're all over the place.

I'm seeing them live this month. Awesome band.

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It's not a case of being lazy.
I just don't like death metal but I do like grindcore.
When I first discovered grindcore it wasn't through my friends that were into metal it was the ones that were into punk , people who would listen to bands like Crass, Christian Death , Alien Sex Fiend , Einstürzende Neubauten. Much more interesting bands than the boring thrash/power metal bands my metal friends were listening to at the time.
What attracted me to it was the way in which it was totally new and also because it was relevant , lots of those original grindcore bands were politically motivated and had a message ,the speed & the aggression came about from the way they wanted to express it , they didn't wake up one day & think 'lets be in a death metal band' and just play fast for the sake of playing fast.
For me when metal bands started interpreting grindcore in their own way they missed the point entirely. Instead of looking at the whole package they just used the speed & aggression and applied the usual metal traits to it of guitar solos , lyrics about death & destruction , gore and all the other kind of things you'd associate with metal.
Now i'm not saying that there are no talented death metal bands out there and i'm sure there are some doing original things , but at the end of the day it makes no difference to me if you mix death metal with jazz or with opera or with electronica or whatever the hell you like , it's still death metal and I still dislike it for the reasons I mentioned above.