Someone please explain the appeal of RATM? (lyrics, electronic, ambient)

Inuzuka Skysword · 06-06-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

I'm sure it is...

Does anyone really take this joker serious? He rates Norwegian death metal over RATM for God's sake!...

Don't feed the trolls please...:-|

He should.....

A lot of Norwegian Death Metal bands are more technical and original then RATM.

And DB is not NDM they are technically in a Black Metal subgenre (I don't listen to them much so I wouldn't know.)

RATM kills its songs for me. "Killing in the Name of" starts off well, but turns into crap.

jackhammer · 06-06-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

Get back to me on that when you're a bit more experienced with death metal. You may think differently.

No I can't be bothered. I was listening to death metal before you were born-DEATH-SCREAM BLOODY GORE (1987), and the genre has'nt really changed in 20 years, a lot of ****e, a lot of indifferent bands and the odd half decent band rising out of the mire. NILE are doing NOTHING different to what the UK hardcore scene circa 1988 was doing except they have long hair and growl about non political/social subjects. It has nothing to do with their actual sound, but it's just not original. This sort of sound was beong banged out years ago-ENT/GENITAL DEFORMITIES/CEREBRAL FIX/BOLTHROWER/NAPALM DEATH/UNSEEN TERROR etc etc.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-06-2007, 05:55 PM

I'm actually with Jackhammer on this one.

Stuff like that sounded great at the time because it was totally new & different to what anybody had done before. I remember hearing Napalm Death for the first time around 88/89 and being blown away by it.
But by only a couple of years later the scene was overrun by bands who were just playing fast & shouting and added no originality to it.It's as if they were just copying how it sounded and missing the point that it was about pushing boundaries , which is one of the reasons I stopped listening to that kind of stuff in the mid 90s , it just got boring.

jackhammer · 06-06-2007, 06:13 PM

Urban-we have agreement! I think we may be in the minority on this one, but totally correct of course!

Inuzuka Skysword · 06-06-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I'm actually with Jackhammer on this one.

Stuff like that sounded great at the time because it was totally new & different to what anybody had done before. I remember hearing Napalm Death for the first time around 88/89 and being blown away by it.
But by only a couple of years later the scene was overrun by bands who were just playing fast & shouting and added no originality to it.It's as if they were just copying how it sounded and missing the point that it was about pushing boundaries , which is one of the reasons I stopped listening to that kind of stuff in the mid 90s , it just got boring.

There are a lot of original Death Metal bands out there. In fact, I really only listen to the original ones. Nile isn't the same as that stuff before though. They have their twist, which makes it unique.

boo boo · 06-06-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

He should.....

A lot of Norwegian Death Metal bands are more technical and original then RATM.

If you replaced RATM with STP, I would still have a hard time buying that.

And how does more skill equate to making better music again?

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RATM kills its songs for me. "Killing in the Name of" starts off well, but turns into crap.

Yeah, the lack of power metal vocals about level 9 black mages kinda killed it for me.

Inuzuka Skysword · 06-06-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

How does more skill euate to making better music again?

Well you tell me. Do you like to hear something not original? I hope not. Would you give more credit to a band who wasn't technical at all or a band who was extremely technical?

Do not take this beyond the point.

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Yeah, the lack of power metal vocals about level 9 black mages kinda killed it for me.

Yeah well I feel the energy gained in the beginning of that song is wasted. Not to mention the fact that it just keeps repeating the guitar riff over....and over.....and over again.

boo boo · 06-06-2007, 07:20 PM

What are you taking about?. Theres like five different chord progressions in that song.

Besides, it's not like every song has to be in 11/4 time. Repetitive riffs are a rock music staple going from The Kinks all the way down to AC/DC to The White Stripes. Repetitive isn't always bad.

jackhammer · 06-06-2007, 07:43 PM

Inzuka-u have Led Zep underneath your profile. So Black Dog is not repetitive... It's all swings and roundabouts my man..

boo boo · 06-06-2007, 07:54 PM

Also Zep > Sabbath IMO.

06-06-2007, 05:55 PM	#53 (permalink)
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06-06-2007, 07:43 PM	#59 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Inzuka-u have Led Zep underneath your profile. So Black Dog is not repetitive... It's all swings and roundabouts my man.. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”