The Fall of Troy

khfreek · 05-10-2009, 01:56 PM

I personally like Frank more than Tim as well.

thisWARisours · 05-10-2009, 02:22 PM

Whoever sung on Manipulator is my fave.

Laces Out Dan! · 05-10-2009, 03:22 PM

Tim was still in the band for Manip. I like Tim more than Frank. Frank is super cool too, and a wicked bassist. But like Thrice said..Tim was the band.

khfreek · 05-10-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by thisWARisours

Whoever sung on Manipulator is my fave.

Tim was the bassist and back-up vocalist (mostly for screams), and Frank replaced him. Thomas Erak has always been and always will be the guitarist and lead vocalist.

Thrice · 05-10-2009, 04:11 PM

I think Phantom was not very good compared to Ghostship. I Still think the demos were the best followed by st then dop. not a fan of manipulator at all.

khfreek · 05-10-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrice

I think Phantom was not very good compared to Ghostship.

They're almost the same thing

Thrice · 05-10-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek

They're almost the same thing

Not at all, for being the same songs they arent that cool. Maybe its because phantom lacks the great parts of the demos. Ghostship/chapter iv is an excellent example. The intro is effed up, it lacks the whole energy, the whole BANG BANG BANG... actually the entire chorus sucks, I like the wildness of ghostship, dont enjoy the lame singing of phantom. Everything that was great about the demos was lost in phantom.

and as for the smiley, no joke they are almost the same, thats why I compared those two as opposed to manip and ghostship.

Thrice · 05-10-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrice

Not at all, for being the same songs they arent that cool. Maybe its because phantom lacks the great parts of the demos. Ghostship/chapter iv is an excellent example. The intro is effed up, it lacks the whole energy, the whole BANG BANG BANG... actually the entire chorus sucks, I like the wildness of ghostship, dont enjoy the lame singing of phantom. Everything that was great about the demos was lost in phantom.

and as for the smiley, no joke they are almost the same, thats why I compared those two as opposed to manip and ghostship.

That is probably directly related to Mr. Ward.

khfreek · 05-10-2009, 04:44 PM

I doubt it was because of Tim. Good production can take the punch out of some music, which is probably what happened with you. I, however, like the singing as opposed to the screaming at the start of IV.

Laces Out Dan! · 05-10-2009, 04:47 PM

Im a big fan of Manip. Probably like s/t and doppel for sure more. But Manip is still awesome. And I like phantom a lot as well...but the original demos are better. The boys are just going in a different directions now a days. A more polished sound.

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Thrice أمهاتك[وهور]Aura Euphoria Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Florida/Buffalo/CT Posts: 2,077	I think Phantom was not very good compared to Ghostship. I Still think the demos were the best followed by st then dop. not a fan of manipulator at all. __________________ Lew Harrison, who looked like an anarchist with his red eyes and fierce black beard, had been writing furiously in one corner of the room. "That's good—happiness by the kilowatt," he said. "Buy your happiness the way you buy light."

05-10-2009, 04:44 PM	#339 (permalink)
khfreek What a guy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,123	I doubt it was because of Tim. Good production can take the punch out of some music, which is probably what happened with you. I, however, like the singing as opposed to the screaming at the start of IV. __________________ last.fm

05-10-2009, 04:47 PM	#340 (permalink)
Laces Out Dan! I love Puck Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: British Columbia Posts: 4,614	Im a big fan of Manip. Probably like s/t and doppel for sure more. But Manip is still awesome. And I like phantom a lot as well...but the original demos are better. The boys are just going in a different directions now a days. A more polished sound. __________________ We are entirely smooth, We admit to the truth, We are the best at what we do.