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slickhare 04-06-2007 11:15 PM

Trying to Find Non-Satanic Rock
 
I'd like to start by saying that i'm not trying to criticize people for their beliefs, but music that glorifies satan goes against my beliefs. that's all.

but anywho, I started listening to some Led Zeppelin and similar bands through Pandora (which i'm assuming most people here are pretty familiar with). But then while looking into the history of Led Zep while bored, i learned of their ties to satanic figures, and the alleged satanic references in "Stairway to Heaven" (as well as the claims about it being played backward). from then on i had a hard time finding bands who didn't have some sort of satanic reference or ties, like Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden. I mean the songs Pandora played didn't seem to solicit any satanic beliefs, and i admit, before i looked to see who the song was by i was thinking to myself that i kinda liked the song, but i just can't reconcile listening to bands that are about that.

I'm sure someone else here has faced a similar dilemma. I like Led Zep's sound, but i could do without the satanic undertones. any resources that could help me figure out which bands to steer clear of?

boo boo 04-06-2007 11:43 PM

Steering clear of a band you like just because of their religious beliefs is pretty lame.

But if you want to avoid satanic bands, you just need to look beyond metal.

enemyat_thesix 04-06-2007 11:45 PM

All rock is Satanic. Didn't you know that?

boo boo 04-06-2007 11:46 PM

All secular music is satanic, only listen to christian rock and gospel music (and only when its being sung by white people).

Hmm... Well I guess Gregorian Chants are safe too.

enemyat_thesix 04-06-2007 11:48 PM

As long as no sixths are involved. Stick to perfect fourths and fifths.

boo boo 04-06-2007 11:50 PM

I think Christian Boy Bands are also ok to listen to.

Their dirty lyrics and sexual innuendos are acceptible just as long as it's about Jesus.

slickhare 04-06-2007 11:56 PM

i'm pretty sure that not all rock is satanic, and when did i say i was christian? perhaps i'm just uncomfortable with satanic themes?

and i'm entitled to a preference. you don't have to make fun of me for it. i'm not bashing whatever you're into.

sleepy jack 04-06-2007 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 356798)
I think Christian Boy Bands are also ok to listen to.

Their dirty lyrics and sexual innuendos are acceptible just as long as it's about Jesus.

Gonna rock your crosses tonight,
Gonna make sure your cross is all wood,
Gonna anoint you with oil tonight,
Gonna teach you about biblehood.

enemyat_thesix 04-07-2007 12:41 AM

I, for one, am just messing. I respect your beliefs--assuming you have said beliefs; I hold strong Judeo-Christian values, myself.

The Unfan 04-07-2007 12:49 AM

Some pretty unsatanic bands: Impetigo, Napalm Death, Embalmer, The Accused, Amebix, His Hero Is Gone, Skaven, Rex Invertigo, Damad, The Old Dead Tree, Sentenced, Municipal Waste, XXX Maniak, Impaled, Carcass, Negative Land, The Cure, Lurk, Boston, Stryper, Genesis, Saga, Haste, Anthrax, Duran Duran, Berlin, Jethro Tull, Advance.

Check them out and enjoy, or not, whatever.

boo boo 04-07-2007 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by slickhare (Post 356800)
i'm pretty sure that not all rock is satanic, and when did i say i was christian? perhaps i'm just uncomfortable with satanic themes?

and i'm entitled to a preference. you don't have to make fun of me for it. i'm not bashing whatever you're into.

I wasn't really poking fun at you, just Christians in general.

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 356806)
Some pretty unsatanic bands: Impetigo, Napalm Death, Embalmer, The Accused, Amebix, His Hero Is Gone, Skaven, Rex Invertigo, Damad, The Old Dead Tree, Sentenced, Municipal Waste, XXX Maniak, Impaled, Carcass, Negative Land, The Cure, Lurk, Boston, Stryper, Genesis, Saga, Haste, Anthrax, Duran Duran, Berlin, Jethro Tull, Advance.

Check them out and enjoy, or not, whatever.

Jethro Tull are not satanic, but they are very anti-organized religion.

Predator 04-07-2007 01:41 AM

WTF is wrong with people here. Someone comes here in hopes of finding some music that fits thier tastes and all we get is a bunch of **** talking? So someone wants some rock music without having any satanic themes. Why can you not just provide an answer rather than acting like you are gods gift to music?

There was a thread looking for christian metal that you might want to look at.
http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...ed-v-cast.html
I'm not sure if it is want you are looking for, but it still might help.
I think that alot of times you can find whatever you want in song lyrics.
It also depends on what kind of rock you are looking for. Classic, metal, classic metal....etc...

InvokeTheDarkAge 04-07-2007 07:04 AM

well the fact is that bands like led zep and sabbath are heavily rooted in blues and blues is considered to be the devils music basically because a lot of the themes are sex, indulgence, and rebellion so basically your gunna have to look past most hard rock and rock in general, also jazz too because jazz uses the tritone (diminshed 5th) a lot and that's considered to be the devils note and was banned in medieval society

hope that helps

Inuzuka Skysword 04-07-2007 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by slickhare (Post 356766)
I'd like to start by saying that i'm not trying to criticize people for their beliefs, but music that glorifies satan goes against my beliefs. that's all.

but anywho, I started listening to some Led Zeppelin and similar bands through Pandora (which i'm assuming most people here are pretty familiar with). But then while looking into the history of Led Zep while bored, i learned of their ties to satanic figures, and the alleged satanic references in "Stairway to Heaven" (as well as the claims about it being played backward). from then on i had a hard time finding bands who didn't have some sort of satanic reference or ties, like Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden. I mean the songs Pandora played didn't seem to solicit any satanic beliefs, and i admit, before i looked to see who the song was by i was thinking to myself that i kinda liked the song, but i just can't reconcile listening to bands that are about that.

I'm sure someone else here has faced a similar dilemma. I like Led Zep's sound, but i could do without the satanic undertones. any resources that could help me figure out which bands to steer clear of?

If you are Christian you are still allowed to listen to satanic music, though Paul does not reccommend it. I listen to a lot of black metal and I am still a Christian. And I am not a Sunday-Christian either.

Muzak 04-07-2007 08:21 AM

Christian rock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

enemyat_thesix 04-07-2007 09:40 AM

ok, I'll give you some Christian/pro-religious metal/core bands to check oiut.

The Devil Wears Prada
Life In Your Way
The Chariot
All That Remains
As I Lay Dying
August Burns Red
Becoming the Archetype
Blessed By A Broken Heart
Foreknown
Haste the Day
Norma Jean
Symphony In Peril
Winter Solstice
With Blood Comes Cleansing

There are tons more; those are just the ones I had under metalcore. For the most part, check out the labels Solid State Records, Tooth and Nail Records, Facedown Records, Strikefirst Records, and Indianola Records. They tend to have decent Christian metal/core bands.

riseagainstrocks 04-07-2007 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by enemyat_thesix (Post 356796)
As long as no sixths are involved. Stick to perfect fourths and fifths.

You mean Tritones? Major and minor 6th's have no "Satanic" or evil sound to them.

Tritones do however.

and listen to Akercoke, Immolation, and Grand Belial's Key.

enemyat_thesix 04-07-2007 01:43 PM

I thought the sixth interval was considered by the old Catholic church to be evil, because six is the ostensible number of the Devil.

tdoc210 04-07-2007 02:48 PM

talking heads
brian eno
yes
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Inuzuka Skysword 04-07-2007 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 356809)
I wasn't really poking fun at you, just Christians in general.

And that makes it right, how? When Christians tell you you are going to go to hell and all that crap, how do you react? I doubt you like it and if I were a athiest I would admit it would get a bit annoying. See, but then you go and do something like this and show a major flaw in your character, hypocrisy.

I just don't get it when people do this kind of crap.

TheBig3 04-07-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by slickhare (Post 356800)
i'm pretty sure that not all rock is satanic, and when did i say i was christian? perhaps i'm just uncomfortable with satanic themes?

and i'm entitled to a preference. you don't have to make fun of me for it. i'm not bashing whatever you're into.


Some people aren't open minded my friend. To some, if you're not mocking something you're part of it, or you love it. Half the boards are teenagers, you'll have to get use to it.

Bands without satanic themes? What are some examples of music with satanic themes. And while im not against it, I do think most satan music is sung by high school losers who never had any friends.

slickhare 04-07-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 356867)
What are some examples of music with satanic themes.

well supposedly Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" was endorsed by some major figure in the satanic church. and it is said if played backward has some satanic praises on it or something to that effect.

Also Rush has pentacles on several of their albums, as does Slayer.

Iron Maiden has that album "The Number of the Beast".

The Beatles feature the founder of the satanic church on the cover of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"

The Rolling Stones had some song that glorified satan (i forget the name)

The origin of Black Sabbath's name is rooted in the occult. plus they had Ozzy Osbourne

AC/DC's name is rumored to mean after christ, devil comes

i'm just having a major dilemma because i liked Led Zep's music and then i hear about this. I overhear a nice, catchy song... it's Iron Maiden or Black Sabbath. i'm having a hard time reconciling listening to music that is rooted in or is tied to such dark stuff.

i'm not asking for christian boy band rock, i'm just wondering if there are any bands that have similar styles to Led Zep, Iron Maiden, or Rush that aren't satanic?

riseagainstrocks 04-07-2007 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by enemyat_thesix (Post 356854)
I thought the sixth interval was considered by the old Catholic church to be evil, because six is the ostensible number of the Devil.

A 6th is 8 or 9 (depending on Major or Minor) half steps from one note to another.

C to Ab = minor 6th
C to A = Major 6th


a tritone is 6 half steps

C to Gb = Tritone

play them on the piano to hear the difference.

Muzak 04-07-2007 04:41 PM

that isn't true satanism, they just simply talk about them. I don't see anything wrong with them, especially if they talk about how bad they are.

enemyat_thesix 04-07-2007 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 356870)
A 6th is 8 or 9 (depending on Major or Minor) half steps from one note to another.

C to Ab = minor 6th
C to A = Major 6th


a tritone is 6 half steps

C to Gb = Tritone

play them on the piano to hear the difference.

Ah, gotcha.

boo boo 04-07-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by InvokeTheDarkAge (Post 356830)
well the fact is that bands like led zep and sabbath are heavily rooted in blues and blues is considered to be the devils music basically because a lot of the themes are sex, indulgence, and rebellion so basically your gunna have to look past most hard rock and rock in general, also jazz too because jazz uses the tritone (diminshed 5th) a lot and that's considered to be the devils note and was banned in medieval society

hope that helps

Robert Johnson sold his soul to Satan, don't forget about that.

boo boo 04-07-2007 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 356865)
And that makes it right, how? When Christians tell you you are going to go to hell and all that crap, how do you react? I doubt you like it and if I were a athiest I would admit it would get a bit annoying. See, but then you go and do something like this and show a major flaw in your character, hypocrisy.

I just don't get it when people do this kind of crap.

Who in the f*ck are you? What in the f*ck have I done that is hypocritical?
All I did was poke fun at christians. Oh what hypocripsy, oh how disrespectful it is to criticize a whole group of people and their beliefs, that is so wrong. Cynical humor is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much worse than dictating how everyone thinks and lives their life.

Go beat up some homosexuals and feminists, you f*cking cancer on the human existence.

Voodoo Chile 04-07-2007 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by slickhare (Post 356869)
The origin of Black Sabbath's name is rooted in the occult.

Black Sabbath got their name from an Italian horror movie released in the early 60's.

You might like Alice In Chains, Deep Purple, Down, Fu Manchu, High On Fire, Kyuss, the Melvins, Nebula, Orange Goblin, Priestess, the Queens Of The Stone Age, Sleep, Soundgarden, and The Sword. All heavy bands, none of which are Satanic. Oh, and you'd probably like Trouble. They're sometimes called "White Sabbath", hah. Same style of music, but with Christian lyrics.

boo boo 04-07-2007 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by slickhare (Post 356869)
well supposedly Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" was endorsed by some major figure in the satanic church. and it is said if played backward has some satanic praises on it or something to that effect.

Backmasked messages are often imaginary, while backmasking is a real process that exists, theres no real evidence of an intentional backmasked message in STH, theres various interpretations of what the "message" in STH actually says, there was even an experiement done in 1985 by two psychologists that was used on several people with the song Another One Bites The Dust, no one could hear any backmasked message when it was played, at least not until they wore told what it was, and they would be given messages that weren't actually in the song, and they would hear the apparent "message" in the recording... This seems to prove that its really just a matter of the mind, very much like optical illusions. Its essentially the same as seeing different formations in the clouds.

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Also Rush has pentacles on several of their albums, as does Slayer.
Slayer are not Satanists, they are Athiests, their music does have Satanic content, but it's meant to provoke and shock, as opposed to representing any sincerely held beliefs by the band.... In fact if you even studied the religion of Satanism, you would find that Satanists don't actually worship Satan at all, or worship anything for that matter, its a purely symbolic religion.

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Iron Maiden has that album "The Number of the Beast".
Steve Harris wrote the title song, and it's based on a dream he had, he's actually very critical of Satanism, no one in the band is actually a Satanist, that I know of.

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The Beatles feature the founder of the satanic church on the cover of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"
They also wanted to put Hitler on the cover but couldn't, it was really just an artistic thing, perhaps an easter egg intended to piss off their Christian critics. I don't know what Paul and Ringos religious beliefs are, but I know that George was a devout Hindu and that John was Agnostic.

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The Rolling Stones had some song that glorified satan (i forget the name)
I think Mick Jagger even produced some Satanic films, yeah, I think they actually are Satanists. But I don't even like The Stones that much to begin with.

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The origin of Black Sabbath's name is rooted in the occult. plus they had Ozzy Osbourne
None of their lyrics are really Satanic, in fact some could even pass as Christian, I think everyone in the band but Ozzy is Catholic.

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AC/DC's name is rumored to mean after christ, devil comes
Other alledged abbreviations are "Anti Christ/Death to Christ" and "Anti Christ/Demon Child" but that is all bull. It actually means "Alternating Current/Direct Current". Angus had seen it on the back of a valcum cleaner and thought it would be a cool band name.

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i'm just having a major dilemma because i liked Led Zep's music and then i hear about this. I overhear a nice, catchy song... it's Iron Maiden or Black Sabbath. i'm having a hard time reconciling listening to music that is rooted in or is tied to such dark stuff.
Well like someone else here said, the blues was considered Satanic, and of course that is where rock music is rooted. So I can imagine that if you are Christian, your pastor would have a problem with you listening to any rock music period.

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i'm not asking for christian boy band rock, i'm just wondering if there are any bands that have similar styles to Led Zep, Iron Maiden, or Rush that aren't satanic?
Rush aren't Satanic, they're just Canadian.

But if you want stuff like Rush, I recomend some *here I go* good ol' progressive rock. Click the two links in my sig, theres a lot of good musical recomendations there.

tdoc210 04-07-2007 10:57 PM

bs arnt satanic in the least, just really doom and gloom, lol they have a song about satanism, warning people about it. also lets not forget that song on MOR.
NIB i think si the only song of theirs with really gratitous satanic refrences ie " my name is lucifer please take my hand"

as for the stones
yeah sympathy for the devil. I love that song, mm the video from rock and roll circus, Jagger has stan tatooed on him, so they arnt for you.

kI really think you should try the talking heads
the kinks?

enemyat_thesix 04-07-2007 11:20 PM

haha psycho killer

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-07-2007 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by slickhare (Post 356869)

AC/DC's name is rumored to mean after christ, devil comes

:laughing:

Angus Young got the name while he was fixing his sisters vacuum cleaner.

boo boo 04-08-2007 12:04 AM

Yeah, I already covered that. ;)

A_Perfect_Sonnet 04-08-2007 12:12 AM

This thread is retarded.

enemyat_thesix 04-08-2007 12:29 AM

but your avatar is awesome so it's alright.

Muzak 04-08-2007 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 356915)
Slayer are not Satanists, they are Athiests,

Isn't Tom Araya a practicing Catholic?

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-08-2007 07:39 AM

I'd stay clear of the bible as well if I were you.

Loads of satanic references in that.

Inuzuka Skysword 04-08-2007 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 356975)
I'd stay clear of the bible as well if I were you.

Loads of satanic references in that.

haha...........

It does mention satan a lot. You also brought up a good point. If I were a Christian musician the first thing I would do would be to make a album titled, "Sex, Drugs, Satan, and Bias." It would so challenge how the many Christians hold bias against rock music, which ticks me off because according to the Bible I can listen to whatever I want as long as I don't glorify the sin they talk about.

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Isn't Tom Araya a practicing Catholic?
He is, but then again, Hitler called himself a Christian so that doesn't say much.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-08-2007 12:28 PM

I think people need to realise singing about it & glorifying it are two totally different things.

Inuzuka Skysword 04-08-2007 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 357008)
I think people need to realise singing about it & glorifying it are two totally different things.

I agree. I mean Dragonforce sings about crossing grassy plains and climbing snow-capped mountains. Do they glorify it, no and they are probably joking around.


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