Trying to Find Non-Satanic Rock (lyrics, metal, gospel, Genesis)

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-10-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I can't stand most Christian rock, like Trinity and stuff like that. I have a hard time believing that even Jesus likes it.

He walked on water, turned water into wine, healed the sick, raised the dead, died for the salvation of all mankind, resurected from the dead. I can't accept that besides all of this, our savior has lousy taste in music. Let alone be such a jerk that he would force us to listen to the same crap music that he does.

There are some good Christian bands out there though, my brother played drums for his church's Christian Rock band.

How many times do I have to tell you this. We ARE ALLOWED to listen to any kind of music we want to as long as we don't glorify its sinful beliefs. I have this debate with many Christians today and I even go as far to say that even if you don't make a Christian band when you are a Christian, you can still glorify God by giving him credit and things like that. After all Christians are supposed to be "little Christs" in that we follow his ways and try to show others what he is about. We do not have to do this through music and we can simply glorify him at concerts and/or interviews and stuff like that.

I don't think Jesus even cares about music because God was on his mind 24/7 when he was on Earth waiting to be crucified. I f he did I don't think he would like the music anyways seeing that I still haven't found a talented Christian rock band. Skillet is the only band that is starting to step up, though I still won't consider them good. I listen to absolutely no Christian rock. I think if Christian bands really want to get people to appreciate them, then they should create their own genre and stop ripping people off. Also, any TRUE music listener would not care whether they were talking about Christ or not and instead they would care about the content of the music.

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Um, Where are your facts on this one?

The only time we see Hitler with any amount of sentimentality, he's got his are around a bust of Nietzsche who thought that Christianity was a way to breed a slave mentality of subservient sheep.

Not only that but Hitler created a Nazi church in which his image replaced Jesus and Mary.

Whatever. All I know is that there was some controversy about that. Either way, if you blaspheme God and say you are a Christian then you are a liar.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-11-2007, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

if you blaspheme God and say you are a Christian then you are a liar.

This is a very illogical idea. Blaspheming and believing Christ is your savior aren't connected in any way and thus aren't mutually exclusive. I can say "I hate TMNT" and still be a fan and collect the comic books while hating what is currently happening in the series. Just as one can be a fan of God's previous works but disapprove of his current direction. One can hope that God gets back on track and thus follow him while having grounds to commit blasphemy.

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-11-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

This is a very illogical idea. Blaspheming and believing Christ is your savior aren't connected in any way and thus aren't mutually exclusive. I can say "I hate TMNT" and still be a fan and collect the comic books while hating what is currently happening in the series. Just as one can be a fan of God's previous works but disapprove of his current direction. One can hope that God gets back on track and thus follow him while having grounds to commit blasphemy.

What are you talking about? If you like God's previous works then you believe he is perfect. If you believe he is perfect then you believe his actions must be perfect. Therefore everything about God is perfect.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-11-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

What are you talking about? If you like God's previous works then you believe he is perfect.

I'm not sure what kind of wacky ass backwards Christian universe you live in but last I checked you could still like something and still believe its not perfect.

/derail

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-12-2007, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

I'm not sure what kind of wacky ass backwards Christian universe you live in but last I checked you could still like something and still believe its not perfect.

/derail

But his previous works were the Bible and in the Bible it says he is perfect.

riseagainstrocks · 04-12-2007, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

This is a very illogical idea. Blaspheming and believing Christ is your savior aren't connected in any way and thus aren't mutually exclusive. I can say "I hate TMNT" and still be a fan and collect the comic books while hating what is currently happening in the series. Just as one can be a fan of God's previous works but disapprove of his current direction. One can hope that God gets back on track and thus follow him while having grounds to commit blasphemy.

False.

Perfection is always perfect. Therefore if you believe that God was at one time perfect, than he cannot ever not be perfect.

As cool as TMNT is, it's not perfect.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-12-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

False.

Perfection is always perfect. Therefore if you believe that God was at one time perfect, than he cannot ever not be perfect.

As cool as TMNT is, it's not perfect.

Liking something and believing it to be perfect are different things. Nowhere in any of my statements did I imply that liking him implied you believed he is/was perfect, simply because that idea is silly. You can like something and believe it is far from perfect, you can also like things for different reasons. One could believe that The Bible is a great work of fiction produced by God and thus like God as a writer.

riseagainstrocks · 04-12-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

Liking something and believing it to be perfect are different things. Nowhere in any of my statements did I imply that liking him implied you believed he is/was perfect, simply because that idea is silly. You can like something and believe it is far from perfect, you can also like things for different reasons. One could believe that The Bible is a great work of fiction produced by God and thus like God as a writer.

That doesn't make sense to "like" God's works. If you believe in the concept of a God at all, that means you are attributing perfection to him. That's the definition. You can like the Bible by all means. But if you believe God wrote it (or if it was divinely inspired) then I can't see how you can justify his existence but not his perfection.

Voodoo Chile · 04-12-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

If you believe in the concept of a God at all, that means you are attributing perfection to him.

:-\

beat yr own KID · 04-12-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

That doesn't make sense to "like" God's works. If you believe in the concept of a God at all, that means you are attributing perfection to him. That's the definition. You can like the Bible by all means. But if you believe God wrote it (or if it was divinely inspired) then I can't see how you can justify his existence but not his perfection.

God sucks anyway.

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