Trying to Find Non-Satanic Rock (pop, fan, track, quote)

boo boo · 04-11-2007, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

How many times do I have to tell you this. We ARE ALLOWED to listen to any kind of music we want to as long as we don't glorify its sinful beliefs. I have this debate with many Christians today and I even go as far to say that even if you don't make a Christian band when you are a Christian, you can still glorify God by giving him credit and things like that. After all Christians are supposed to be "little Christs" in that we follow his ways and try to show others what he is about. We do not have to do this through music and we can simply glorify him at concerts and/or interviews and stuff like that.

I don't think Jesus even cares about music because God was on his mind 24/7 when he was on Earth waiting to be crucified. I f he did I don't think he would like the music anyways seeing that I still haven't found a talented Christian rock band. Skillet is the only band that is starting to step up, though I still won't consider them good. I listen to absolutely no Christian rock. I think if Christian bands really want to get people to appreciate them, then they should create their own genre and stop ripping people off. Also, any TRUE music listener would not care whether they were talking about Christ or not and instead they would care about the content of the music.

I actually agree wirth most of that.

For me it's a matter of personal bias, I've spent a good deal of my life with Baptists, Evangelicals and Penticostals. So you can say that my negative opinions on Christianity are influenced by that.

Some Baptists can especially be pretty obnoxious, they dictated me over everything, my appearance, my sense of humor, my taste in music, my political points of view, etc. I eventually stopped going to Church, I came to the conclusion that if there is a god, he wouldn't be so cruel as in to make it a obligation for me to spend such a great deal of my time with assh*les who use the word of god to promote ignorance.

I know there are good christians, but so so so sooooooooo many people who call themselves Christian are such douchebags.

beat yr own KID · 04-11-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by slickhare

because i am, and it's as simple as that.

people often have phobias or dislikes that others don't understand. for example, i knew a girl who was deathly afraid of syrup. she had this idea that if there was syrup near her, it would somehow get in her hair, and this terrified her. now to you and me, this sounds silly. how in the world, could syrup get in your hair if you're being careful? but to her it was a very real and rational concern. was she mentally handicapped, or just not very bright? not at all, she's one of the most intelligent people i've ever met.

same goes for this thread. my aversion to occult and satanic references in music may seem naive or irrational to you, but to me it's a concern, and because you can't understand it or think it's trivial doesn't make me oblivious to the world around me.

That doesn't make sense. Having a phobia is one thing....so you have a phobia of satantic rock to the point where you look for examples of it in anything you listen to? You need help yo haha. That's fuckin nuts.

slickhare · 04-11-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by beat yr own KID

That doesn't make sense. Having a phobia is one thing....so you have a phobia of satantic rock to the point where you look for examples of it in anything you listen to? You need help yo haha. That's fuckin nuts.

where did I say i had a phobia of satanic rock? i was using the phobia thing as an example.

to quote myself: "my aversion to occult and satanic references in music". an "aversion" is much different than a phobia.

TheBig3 · 04-11-2007, 02:34 PM

I don't know if its been stated. But nothing about Stairway to Heaven is satanic.

sleepy jack · 04-11-2007, 02:40 PM

Yeah seriously, from what i've heard about most "satanic" songs its more like parents just trying to get music they dislike banned by saying it contains some kind of message backwards.

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-11-2007, 05:00 PM

This reminds me of the time I showed my mom the song "hooker with a penis" by Tool and she flipped out. I was like, "Mom, you don't even know the true meaning."

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I know there are good christians, but so so so sooooooooo many people who call themselves Christian are such douchebags.

Those are called lukewarms. And I hate it when people way they are Christians and go around getting drunk, having sex out of their marriage, etc.

boo boo · 04-11-2007, 06:19 PM

Lol, like my stepdad.

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-11-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

This is a very illogical idea. Blaspheming and believing Christ is your savior aren't connected in any way and thus aren't mutually exclusive. I can say "I hate TMNT" and still be a fan and collect the comic books while hating what is currently happening in the series. Just as one can be a fan of God's previous works but disapprove of his current direction. One can hope that God gets back on track and thus follow him while having grounds to commit blasphemy.

What are you talking about? If you like God's previous works then you believe he is perfect. If you believe he is perfect then you believe his actions must be perfect. Therefore everything about God is perfect.

tdoc210 · 04-11-2007, 07:19 PM

i said jesus christ today, that was a determining factor in ym suspension seperation of church and state my ass

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-11-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

What are you talking about? If you like God's previous works then you believe he is perfect.

I'm not sure what kind of wacky ass backwards Christian universe you live in but last I checked you could still like something and still believe its not perfect.

/derail

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tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	i said jesus christ today, that was a determining factor in ym suspension seperation of church and state my ass __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.