Why metal will never again be the dominant genre (hardcore, punk)

TheBig3 · 04-24-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

Blackened death metal is quite a valid genre - if you listen to enough death metal, the need for that label becomes instantly obvious. A blackened death metal band like Abominator sounds quite different to a melodeath band like Dark Tranquillity.

A famous sailor once said "thats all I can stands I can't stands no more."

its not "if you listen to enough" its "if you only listen to."

Metal tends to be highly insular, and because they exist in only a land of metal, you have a lot of these people noticing the differences between one band and another and matching them with genres. You can't say to a metal fan "[band x] is in [genre x]" without them saying "well actually their more [genre y]." If you don't believe me, go look at every metal thread on a band or sub-genre and you'll see those arguments conducted.

This happens in other genres but to a much smaller degree since most other genres tend to lend themselves to diversification, allowing in other types of music in the interest of what sounds good.

The only two genres that metal follows is classical and jazz, whose purists also have enough sub-genres to bore the **** out of anyone with a mildly curiosity in the music form.

Sub-genres only serve to prevent people from trying out new things. If you couldn't say "I listen to agrarian Russian rap-polka and maybe some Chicago blues" then their wouldn't be a reason to listen to something that wasn't labeled as one of those two genres.

sleepy jack · 04-24-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jolly_roger

I think that the simple solution is to get better bands that can once again unify the genre-I think that LEd Zeppelin is a great example of this, but the problem with that is that everyone took one part of their eclecticism and left the rest. Some bands to Dazed and Confused and made stoner metal, some took the rain song and made it a part of pop. Somebody must once again reunite the light and shade.

Agreed basically every band today stole something from Zeppelin.

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-24-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Agreed basically every band today stole something from Zeppelin.

But then you could argue what Zeppelin stole.

TheBig3 · 04-24-2007, 07:34 PM

Am I in the ****ing twilight zone or is it groundhogs day?

sleepy jack · 04-24-2007, 07:41 PM

People fail at detecting sarcasm, it should've been obvious since it was me saying it.

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-24-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

People fail at detecting sarcasm, it should've been obvious since it was me saying it.

That was sarcasm................................O_O.

Since none of us in here can stand the fact that a band has influences, let us go back and listen to some old Hebrew music and the Gregorian Chant.

/sarcasm........but I really like Gregorian Chant.

sleepy jack · 04-24-2007, 11:52 PM

Theres a huge difference between being influenced and stealing songs you know that right?

boo boo · 04-25-2007, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Theres a huge difference between being influenced and stealing songs you know that right?

Blues and Folk artists steal from each other all the time.

HOW MANY F*CKING TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT?

sleepy jack · 04-25-2007, 12:18 AM

I THOUGHT LED ZEPPELIN WERE HEAVY METAL?!

boo boo · 04-25-2007, 12:19 AM

I don't consider them that, if they're metal then so is Uriah Heep. They're more like proto-metal. In pretty much the same way that The MC5 is proto punk and The Mothers of Invention are proto prog.

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