screaming/gutteral vocals (metal, rock, genre, Atmosphere, Tool)

beat yr own KID · 11-01-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

I love both styles. You can't appreciate it until you try to do it. I'd explain further but odds are unless you do alot of drugs, my logic will not make sense

drugs are what turned me off to most screaming bands.

Seltzer · 11-01-2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RhythmGod

What makes this music?
Personally I hate this type, I turn the radio to a different station as soon as I hear it.
But some people are REALLY into this.

What do you like about it? (no disrespect intended!)

I love good screaming/growling - a vocalist who is willing to scream/growl, and experiment (ala Mike Patton) is far more interesting and diverse than a straight clean vocalist.

Growling and screaming have many facets. E.g.

* Insightful growling (some Opeth)
* Beautifully intense growling (death metal).
* Sad/depressing/doomy/sorrowful (doom metal)
* More grunty growling which serves atmosphere (Isis).
* Thin sounding growling which gives an evil sound (Agalloch)
* Growling full of pure rage (Devin Townsend/SYL)
* Narrative growling which tends to be more articulate (folk metal)

Then you get vocalists who add more dimensions. Screaming and clean vocals can also be divided as above. Then you have vocalists like Devin Townsend, Garm, Daniel Gildenlow and Mike Patton who are full of versatility. Wormphlegm uses 2 vocalists to achieve some incredibly skilled/depraved/sickening vocals which help to paint the picture of a torture chamber (intentionally).

Clean vocals are not the be all and end all of music - they're just a tool which a vocalist can use. However, it is bad when you get a vocalist who can't growl with any tone, and only growls. Demilich's vocals get quite repetitive.

What you have to remember is that practically everyone was born to hate these kinds of vocals. Many grow to like them. I was indifferent towards them at first, but Opeth got me into growling ages ago, simply because Akerfeldt is a fairly diverse, articulate and good growler (and good at clean vocals too). Deep Purple and Judas Priest got me into screaming. I suppose black/folk metal has taken my interest in screaming further.

djchameleon · 11-01-2006, 11:14 PM

I can tolerate it sometimes, if its done tastefully in my opinion. I really have to be in the mood to hear it though. I don't mind it as much when screaming gets traded off with regular singing

enemyat_thesix · 11-01-2006, 11:30 PM

i much prefer guttural vocals to shrieked vocals. it's cool when bands do both though, like suicide silence and dead to fall (hey, not that guttural, but still).

InvokeTheDarkAge · 11-02-2006, 06:04 AM

in death metal there are two kinds of growls much more guttural which is for more death/grind stuff such as Suffocation then their is stuff that is more throaty and fluid which is like old Amorphis and Bolt Thrower

in black metal it's generally more raspy and tend to use high-pitched screams

personally i enjoy all kinds as long as it suits the music

Melkor · 11-02-2006, 06:37 AM

Black Metal Screech/Growls are better than Death Growls.

I also like Alexi Laiho's vocals (Children of Bodom). But I don't know what genre to class the band in. They have the elements of Power Metal, Death Metal and Black Metal.

Sound Devastation · 11-02-2006, 06:44 AM

Vocals in this kind of music are used as an instrument.

compare to guitar for example.. theres only so much use you can make out of clean guitars. Distortion (like growls), or feedback (like screams) can add dynamics and variation to the music to portray a wider variety of emotions.

They take alot of getting used to... i have been listening to harsh vocals for 4 or 5 years and they now make up about 50% of what i listen to (with 15% clean and 35% none at all) obviously there are good and bad harsh vocalists just as there are good and bad singers, but when its done well it takes just as much, if not more talent.

some of my favourites..

Alan Dubin (Khanate). Unearthly terrifying screams which turn every sentence into a tortured death scream.... perfect contrast to the bleak droning soundscapes of the music. Listen to: Skin Coat

Jacob Bannon (Converge). one of the most beautiful screams in hardcore... he stretches his voice to almost breaking point (Listen to: Tremour) to compliment the crushing riffs.

Drew & Kathy (Circle Takes The Square) Male and female dual screamed vocals.. the technical imperfections and cracking voices here are what makes the perfectly pure emotional screams.

with low, gutteral vocals i find it harder to distinguish good vocalists... but i am very fond on Aaron Turner of Isis, and Scott Kelly and Steve Von Till of Neurosis... who have a more metalcore style (rather than death metal)

littleknowitall · 11-02-2006, 07:10 AM

Music is a form of expressing ones self through sound, if you want to express how you feel by screaming like a ninnie down a mic then i suppose it's still music, plus you can always just listen to the rest of the music behind the vocals.
personally i'm usually too hungover to deal with overpowering screaming vocals.

Sneer · 11-02-2006, 10:47 AM

Bring Me the Horizon, a band i find particularly terrible. "BURPING" down a mic is not music. Its noise. And not even inventive noise. Just noise.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 11-02-2006, 12:06 PM

Screaming to me is fine in moderation.

Scream all the time & I think it gets boring & lessens the effect,I couldn`t listen to an album where it`s like that in every song.

I think if you scream less , when you do scream it sounds much more intense & powerful.

11-02-2006, 06:04 AM	#15 (permalink)
InvokeTheDarkAge Raise Thou Broadsword! Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 167	in death metal there are two kinds of growls much more guttural which is for more death/grind stuff such as Suffocation then their is stuff that is more throaty and fluid which is like old Amorphis and Bolt Thrower in black metal it's generally more raspy and tend to use high-pitched screams personally i enjoy all kinds as long as it suits the music __________________ Remember Kids Your Anus is Not A Toy!

11-02-2006, 06:44 AM	#17 (permalink)
Sound Devastation Music Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 728	Vocals in this kind of music are used as an instrument. compare to guitar for example.. theres only so much use you can make out of clean guitars. Distortion (like growls), or feedback (like screams) can add dynamics and variation to the music to portray a wider variety of emotions. They take alot of getting used to... i have been listening to harsh vocals for 4 or 5 years and they now make up about 50% of what i listen to (with 15% clean and 35% none at all) obviously there are good and bad harsh vocalists just as there are good and bad singers, but when its done well it takes just as much, if not more talent. some of my favourites.. Alan Dubin (Khanate). Unearthly terrifying screams which turn every sentence into a tortured death scream.... perfect contrast to the bleak droning soundscapes of the music. Listen to: Skin Coat Jacob Bannon (Converge). one of the most beautiful screams in hardcore... he stretches his voice to almost breaking point (Listen to: Tremour) to compliment the crushing riffs. Drew & Kathy (Circle Takes The Square) Male and female dual screamed vocals.. the technical imperfections and cracking voices here are what makes the perfectly pure emotional screams. with low, gutteral vocals i find it harder to distinguish good vocalists... but i am very fond on Aaron Turner of Isis, and Scott Kelly and Steve Von Till of Neurosis... who have a more metalcore style (rather than death metal) __________________ Out soon... AMENRA - Mass III 2xLP [stunning vinyl release of the belgian sludgecore giants epic 06 album] FALL OF EFRAFA - Owsla & Elil CD&LP [British crust/doom/post-metal band Fall of Efrafa deliver part two (Elil) on their dark conceptual trilogy. Part one (Owsla) will also be re-released for the first time in the UK] *** visit... Sound Devastation Records website**

11-02-2006, 10:47 AM	#19 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Bring Me the Horizon, a band i find particularly terrible. "BURPING" down a mic is not music. Its noise. And not even inventive noise. Just noise. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

11-02-2006, 12:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Screaming to me is fine in moderation. Scream all the time & I think it gets boring & lessens the effect,I couldn`t listen to an album where it`s like that in every song. I think if you scream less , when you do scream it sounds much more intense & powerful. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

11-02-2006, 06:37 AM	#16 (permalink)
Melkor Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: India. Posts: 91	Black Metal Screech/Growls are better than Death Growls. I also like Alexi Laiho's vocals (Children of Bodom). But I don't know what genre to class the band in. They have the elements of Power Metal, Death Metal and Black Metal.

11-02-2006, 07:10 AM	#18 (permalink)
littleknowitall Pow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,671	Music is a form of expressing ones self through sound, if you want to express how you feel by screaming like a ninnie down a mic then i suppose it's still music, plus you can always just listen to the rest of the music behind the vocals. personally i'm usually too hungover to deal with overpowering screaming vocals.