Music Banter - screaming/gutteral vocals

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Bring Me The Horizon are an example of BAD screaming.

screaming all the way through is just like singing all the way through... theres variations within the vocal style.

of course there are bands that utilise screaming well. but i generally cant stand it in a grindcore, metalcore etc etc context

I really don't like those bands that just 'growl' the whole time. I like screaming sometimes, like Donita Sparks style. But I heard that band Kitty, really did not like that.

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Originally Posted by Melkor (Post 300247)

Black Metal Screech/Growls are better than Death Growls.

I also like Alexi Laiho's vocals (Children of Bodom). But I don't know what genre to class the band in. They have the elements of Power Metal, Death Metal and Black Metal.

I call them Extreme Power Metal, like Dragonforce. I like is vocals a lot too. The are definitely unique and it works well with their style.

Thanks for the info. The most screaming I can handle is "cowboys of hell" by pantera.

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 300181)

I love both styles. You can't appreciate it until you try to do it.

totally true.. i guess it all comes down to what kind of ears you have as well.. some people have got the ear for listening to this kinda stuff AND being able to define who is better at harsh vocals than not...

i love both styles, especially when they are overlaid, or 2 vocals do one of each at the same time..

example - glen benton on 'legion' by deicide, the high and low mix sounds incredible on there.

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Originally Posted by Seltzer (Post 300200)

I love good screaming/growling - a vocalist who is willing to scream/growl, and experiment (ala Mike Patton) is far more interesting and diverse than a straight clean vocalist.

Growling and screaming have many facets. E.g.

* Insightful growling (some Opeth)
* Beautifully intense growling (death metal).
* Sad/depressing/doomy/sorrowful (doom metal)
* More grunty growling which serves atmosphere (Isis).
* Thin sounding growling which gives an evil sound (Agalloch)
* Growling full of pure rage (Devin Townsend/SYL)
* Narrative growling which tends to be more articulate (folk metal)

Then you get vocalists who add more dimensions. Screaming and clean vocals can also be divided as above. Then you have vocalists like Devin Townsend, Garm, Daniel Gildenlow and Mike Patton who are full of versatility. Wormphlegm uses 2 vocalists to achieve some incredibly skilled/depraved/sickening vocals which help to paint the picture of a torture chamber (intentionally).

Clean vocals are not the be all and end all of music - they're just a tool which a vocalist can use. However, it is bad when you get a vocalist who can't growl with any tone, and only growls. Demilich's vocals get quite repetitive.

What you have to remember is that practically everyone was born to hate these kinds of vocals. Many grow to like them. I was indifferent towards them at first, but Opeth got me into growling ages ago, simply because Akerfeldt is a fairly diverse, articulate and good growler (and good at clean vocals too). Deep Purple and Judas Priest got me into screaming. I suppose black/folk metal has taken my interest in screaming further.

You can't really say it much better than he did.

Opeth also got me into Death Grunting and Mikael is probably one of my favorite grunters.

Morbid Angel IMO are one the greatest bands in this genre. Esp, with Vincent.

I don't like grunts, and I don't like black metal vocals. I like the stuff in between. Underoath has some good screaming, though they're not death metal, or screamo.

I tried gutteral vocals once, i completely f***ed up my vocal chords and could hardly talk for a week. Dunno how those guys do it every night. It sounds ludicrous though most of the time. The only growling i can listen to is Phil Anselmo/Max Cavelera type.