Women in Metal (fan, Metalhead, cover, shows, quote)

A_Perfect_Sonnet · 10-11-2006, 02:07 AM

Flowers In the Attic and 1905 both have female screamers.

boo boo · 10-11-2006, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enemyat_thesix

DISLCAIMER: I am not a sexist pig.

Women don't belong in metal; or hardcore, onstage or otherwise. The thing that bugs me most about hardcore shows are the girls. They just stand around in their dotted shirts and spandex tights, taking up space that should be used for the pit. As far as onstage is concerned, they just don't belong there. Metal (and likewise, hardcore) are first and foremost about machismo ("a strong or exaggerated sense of manliness" [Dictionary.com]). Give it up, ladies.

At first it was comical; now it's aggravating.

Oh but you are a sexist pig.

However I do believe woman have no place in metal, but my motivations are not sexist, because I also believe men have no place in metal... Puh puh ching.

Just kidding folks.

Sound Devastation · 10-11-2006, 06:42 AM

theres nothing stopping women getting involved in metal... but fact is very few are any good at it (hardcore and Avant Garde are a different matter). for most Metal the female vocal range doesnt go well with the music IMO and i hate operaric vocals. There are a few exceptions... but often i dont think it sounds right. As for female musicians, theyre as good/bad as the men, just not as common.

but saying Women shouldnt attend shows is sexist. i am as much a fan of music as any guy i know. pits are childish.

Muzak · 10-11-2006, 06:45 AM

The style of metal is just more masculine, which is why women are not as common at metal shows as guys. They certainly can be there but the style of metal is usually not appealing to females.

Sound Devastation · 10-11-2006, 06:54 AM

true... 'metal' (again excluding h/c and experimental) shows are not appealing to me at all.. too much booze, sweat and testosterone! i dont dislike pits because they're violent, but because i find them incredibly immature.

DearJenny · 10-11-2006, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enemyat_thesix

They just stand around in their dotted shirts and spandex tights, taking up space that should be used for the pit.

Just so ya know, I'm usually a forerunner in the pit. If nothing's going, I'll get it going. And at Gigantour this year I helped start a dirt fight. I agree with chicks that stand around though. I mean, I can effing mosh, and these lil twig girls there with their boyfriends get all pissed off when someone hits them. I hate it. I hit one of those girls with dirt on purpose! But girls do get in the pits at concerts.

boo boo · 10-11-2006, 09:01 AM

If you don't think women should attend metal concerts, then you are even more homoerotic than the average metal fan, and that's saying quite a lot.

Overall, it's the pseudo machoness of most heavy metal that really turns me off.

Muzak · 10-11-2006, 02:37 PM

I don't think male metalheads in general don't want the girls to be there, its just that most girls don't like the music so they obviously usually don't go to the shows.

In my personal experience to shows (only two so far), I have seen a lot of women. Though the male ratio was much higher in the shows, the female ratio was pretty solid. Its just the way it is; I Personally wish more girls would get into metal, it gets pretty lame if its always a sausage fest.

Those who don't think girls belong the in the shows need to rethink that opinion.

InvokeTheDarkAge · 10-11-2006, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muzak

I don't think male metalheads in general don't want the girls to be there, its just that most girls don't like the music so they obviously usually don't go to the shows.

In my personal experience to shows (only two so far), I have seen a lot of women. Though the male ratio was much higher in the shows, the female ratio was pretty solid. Its just the way it is; I Personally wish more girls would get into metal, it gets pretty lame if its always a sausage fest.

Those who don't think girls belong the in the shows need to rethink that opinion.

agreed

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-11-2006, 02:42 PM

Lets face it , if you are a girl and you`ve spent ages getting ready to go out the last thing you`re gonna want to do is spend the night being leered at & shoved around by a bunch of sweaty teenage boys covered in acne.

10-11-2006, 06:42 AM	#23 (permalink)
Sound Devastation Music Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 728	theres nothing stopping women getting involved in metal... but fact is very few are any good at it (hardcore and Avant Garde are a different matter). for most Metal the female vocal range doesnt go well with the music IMO and i hate operaric vocals. There are a few exceptions... but often i dont think it sounds right. As for female musicians, theyre as good/bad as the men, just not as common. but saying Women shouldnt attend shows is sexist. i am as much a fan of music as any guy i know. pits are childish. __________________ Out soon... AMENRA - Mass III 2xLP [stunning vinyl release of the belgian sludgecore giants epic 06 album] FALL OF EFRAFA - Owsla & Elil CD&LP [British crust/doom/post-metal band Fall of Efrafa deliver part two (Elil) on their dark conceptual trilogy. Part one (Owsla) will also be re-released for the first time in the UK] *** visit... Sound Devastation Records website**

10-11-2006, 06:54 AM	#25 (permalink)
Sound Devastation Music Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 728	true... 'metal' (again excluding h/c and experimental) shows are not appealing to me at all.. too much booze, sweat and testosterone! i dont dislike pits because they're violent, but because i find them incredibly immature. __________________ Out soon... AMENRA - Mass III 2xLP [stunning vinyl release of the belgian sludgecore giants epic 06 album] FALL OF EFRAFA - Owsla & Elil CD&LP [British crust/doom/post-metal band Fall of Efrafa deliver part two (Elil) on their dark conceptual trilogy. Part one (Owsla) will also be re-released for the first time in the UK] *** visit... Sound Devastation Records website**

10-11-2006, 02:42 PM	#30 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Lets face it , if you are a girl and you`ve spent ages getting ready to go out the last thing you`re gonna want to do is spend the night being leered at & shoved around by a bunch of sweaty teenage boys covered in acne. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

10-11-2006, 02:07 AM	#21 (permalink)
A_Perfect_Sonnet Dinosaurus Rex!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winchester, VA Posts: 896	Flowers In the Attic and 1905 both have female screamers.

10-11-2006, 06:45 AM	#24 (permalink)
Muzak Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,050	The style of metal is just more masculine, which is why women are not as common at metal shows as guys. They certainly can be there but the style of metal is usually not appealing to females.

10-11-2006, 02:37 PM	#28 (permalink)
Muzak Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,050	I don't think male metalheads in general don't want the girls to be there, its just that most girls don't like the music so they obviously usually don't go to the shows. In my personal experience to shows (only two so far), I have seen a lot of women. Though the male ratio was much higher in the shows, the female ratio was pretty solid. Its just the way it is; I Personally wish more girls would get into metal, it gets pretty lame if its always a sausage fest. Those who don't think girls belong the in the shows need to rethink that opinion.