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bubbins 09-19-2006 03:00 PM

Is real rock dead???
 
When was the last time anyone was a big breakthrough act? There seems to be a real shortage of bands that actually have some hair on their balls!!! GRrrr!!! I find it so frustrating!! I wrote a whole blog about it on my blogspot. check it out if u like!

half_baked87 09-19-2006 03:04 PM

i dont see a link. and real rock isn't dead, its underground... next.

sleepy jack 09-19-2006 03:08 PM

uh, its not...at all.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-19-2006 03:09 PM

*Awaits usual 'why don`t bands sound like Led Zeppelin anymore whaaaa whaaaa whaaaa' rant*

swim 09-19-2006 03:24 PM

Just because mediocore sellouts aren't popping up everywhere doesn't mean there isn't good new music.

ZeppelinAir 09-19-2006 03:27 PM

Real rock aint dead, its in a coma

just cause you cant find the big name groups that where famous for the rock nature doesnt mean that its dead, most of those groups play in clubs and such now so its far from dead

Soundgardener 09-19-2006 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbins (Post 288612)
check it out if u like!


No, thanks. I've wasted enough time looking at this thread.

Merkaba 09-19-2006 09:43 PM

^ Ha.

Yeah, I can't see how you could come to that conclusion bubbins. You'll find that rock music is alive and well, but you gotta look properly.

gabbagabba_hey 09-20-2006 03:10 PM

yes........



LIVE ON PAPER AND SISCORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



im sorry i couldnt haelp myself

lucylovestool 09-26-2006 10:50 PM

If you turn off your radio, it's not. I NEVER listen to the radio because it's filled with music I prefer to ignore. But I do agree that *some* rock is turning...rather soft if you ask me.

under 09-27-2006 05:53 PM

Real rock is no way dead. It's one of the best rock genres.

Merkaba 09-27-2006 10:20 PM

:laughing:

Someone sig that.

A_Perfect_Sonnet 09-27-2006 11:07 PM

Nobody would know more about being a true rocker than H.I.M.

Blain 09-28-2006 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H.I.M (Post 290687)
Real rock is no way dead. It's one of the best rock genres.

*Backhands* LEAVE!

MURDER JUNKIE 09-28-2006 02:11 AM

as far as rock genres go, I think rock is the best one

Blain 09-28-2006 02:24 AM

As far as metal genres go, I think screamo is the best one :p:

bruise_violet 09-28-2006 01:57 PM

I don't really know what is meant by 'real rock'?

It's been a while since I heard a good modern band, but that's because I don't look for any, I don't watch much TV or listen to the radio. So no, I wouldn't say rock is dead as I don't really have much proof.

EDIT: HIM are you a girl now? Love the rose.

Mr Sensitive 09-28-2006 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H.I.M (Post 290687)
Real rock is no way dead. It's one of the best rock genres.

Hahaha, every forum should have it's own H.I.M.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-28-2006 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruise_violet (Post 290904)
I don't really know what is meant by 'real rock'?

http://www.salajam.com/taldeak/argazkiak/manowar.jpg

bruise_violet 09-28-2006 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 290908)

RIP rock.

gibsons86 09-28-2006 10:24 PM

Real rock isnt dead! true, some of the newer bands are making sounds that people are ****ting at, that doesnt mean that rock isnt dead. Just look at Wolfmother! Jet! these are the true rock bands of our time

sleepy jack 09-28-2006 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibsons86 (Post 291096)
Real rock isnt dead! true, some of the newer bands are making sounds that people are ****ting at, that doesnt mean that rock isnt dead. Just look at Wolfmother! Jet! these are the true rock bands of our time

Shiit, rock is doomed.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-28-2006 10:35 PM

I just found his original article...

Quote:

What do people think about old rock music?
Is there space for it in todays charts??
All the new rock bands that are coming out now all have the same sound. Does anyone else agree? There are a few decent bands like the Kaiser Cheifs and Kasabian and they have a real sound but a lot of bands seem to have the same dum de dum de dum sound.

I missed Reading Festival (carling weekend) this year and I'm slightly annoyed because I missed out on seeing the Kaiser Cheifs and Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam are a good example of how old rock music can still be popular now. Is it going to be possible for old rock bands or even new rock bands with an old sound to make it big now?
I've been a fan of rock music all my life. I was brought up listening to bands like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and the Rolling Stones. There aren't any bands at the moment that really have some sort of break through sound. I feel like maybe they've run out of sounds. Run out of things to do.
A decent guitar solo is very rare now adays. The closest I heard reccently was The Darkness who although were very successful have sort of turned into a one hit wonder band. That one hit being there first album. But they were too cheesy for me. I know men in tight jeans and big hair is supposed to be cheesy but I miss the real rock ballads!!!

Does anyone else agree? Or is it just me.
Looks like my original assessment was spot on.

A_Perfect_Sonnet 09-28-2006 10:35 PM

Jet steals their riffs from AC/DC. Neither band is very good. Ouch.

riseagainstrocks 09-29-2006 09:10 AM

Rock music like punk, like hardcore, like Classical, was an era.

We're past that era. There is no innovation. I'm not saying that that is neccessarily a bad thing, but what made it exciting and fresh is common now.

So yes, Rock is dead. There are bands out there that emulate it, and that build off it, but they are no longer "rock n' roll" bands.

bruise_violet 09-29-2006 12:36 PM

About the Darkness, weren't they just taking the piss a bit? I thought they were trying to be all glam rock as a joke?

EDIT: See what you mean rar, music changes over time and of course there are no bands like Led Zep now coz they are all in the past.

Raine 09-29-2006 01:11 PM

I don't think real rock is dead.
When you've got bands like Metallica every so often releasing a good album rock can't die. But I think Lynkrd Skynrd released an album within the last 3 years that wasn't too great. And they were pretty good back in their day. SO I guess it's about perspective.
And I will admit that I haven't heard too many new rocks bands that I actually liked.
So i guess talented rock bands just aren't emerging as frequently as we would like.
And good rock music in general (regardless of band) isn't emerging too often either.

sleepy jack 09-29-2006 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raine (Post 291228)
I don't think real rock is dead.
When you've got bands like Metallica every so often releasing a good album rock can't die. But I think Lynkrd Skynrd released an album within the last 3 years that wasn't too great. And they were pretty good back in their day. SO I guess it's about perspective.
And I will admit that I haven't heard too many new rocks bands that I actually liked.
So i guess talented rock bands just aren't emerging as frequently as we would like.
And good rock music in general (regardless of band) isn't emerging too often either.

So because you don't like them there isn't many talented rock bands? and I wouldn't call St. Anger something thats saving rock...

bruise_violet 09-29-2006 01:16 PM

If a band came out right now that sounded like Led Zeppelin, all you guys would be like "Oh my god those ***s are copying Led Zep!!" coz like, I know I probably would.

Raine 09-29-2006 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 291231)
So because you don't like them there isn't many talented rock bands? and I wouldn't call St. Anger something thats saving rock...

I didn't like the St. Anger album. And it's not saving rock music although I don't think it needs to be dead because I think it's still alive.
I was look for an example of rock music that was good.

And it's not really abuot whether a band is talented or not. It's about the music int he rock genre that's been coming out lately. Not necessarily from a particular band.

sleepy jack 09-29-2006 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raine (Post 291235)
I didn't like the St. Anger album. And it's not saving rock music although I don't think it needs to be dead because I think it's still alive.
I was look for an example of rock music that was good.

And it's not really abuot whether a band is talented or not. It's about the music int he rock genre that's been coming out lately. Not necessarily from a particular band.

If not St. Anger then what metallica album? I wouldn't exactly consider the 90s very recent, especially if you're talking about it keeping the genre alive.

What has been coming out lately then? I've seen plenty of great rock albums in 2006.

Raine 09-29-2006 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 291243)
If not St. Anger then what metallica album? I wouldn't exactly consider the 90s very recent, especially if you're talking about it keeping the genre alive.

What has been coming out lately then? I've seen plenty of great rock albums in 2006.

oh sure there are plenty of great rock bands out there of the new millenium. No doubt.
But in an effort to answer the question as to whether or not real rock is dead i just mentioned st.anger. It's not a particularly great album but it was mde by an extremly talented band.

once again, i do not think the genre is dead

sleepy jack 09-29-2006 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raine (Post 291246)
oh sure there are plenty of great rock bands out there of the new millenium. No doubt.
But in an effort to answer the question as to whether or not real rock is dead i just mentioned st.anger. It's not a particularly great album but it was mde by an extremly talented band.

once again, i do not think the genre is dead

Okay, so as long as the bands talented they're saving rock regardless of the fact they're putting out shit? That makes quite a bit of sense.

Raine 09-29-2006 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 291247)
Okay, so as long as the bands talented they're saving rock regardless of the fact they're putting out shit? That makes quite a bit of sense.

i don't think rock needs to be saved.
but yes. St Anger is one of the worst metallica albums ever. They should definitely stop making music. They've fulfilled their quota of good songs and bad songs.

sleepy jack 09-29-2006 01:45 PM

StoneMagnet pwnz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raine (Post 291250)
i don't think rock needs to be saved.
but yes. St Anger is one of the worst metallica albums ever. They should definitely stop making music. They've fulfilled their quota of good songs and bad songs.

"When you've got bands like Metallica every so often releasing a good album rock can't die."

Well obviously they havn't been releasing much often...and seeing as you admit their most recent released sucked..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raine (Post 291228)
I don't think real rock is dead.
When you've got bands like Metallica every so often releasing a good album rock can't die. But I think Lynkrd Skynrd released an album within the last 3 years that wasn't too great. And they were pretty good back in their day. SO I guess it's about perspective.
And I will admit that I haven't heard too many new rocks bands that I actually liked.
So i guess talented rock bands just aren't emerging as frequently as we would like.
And good rock music in general (regardless of band) isn't emerging too often either.


From that post, I assumed you meant rock was needing saving or to be kept alive. But hey

glazedface 09-29-2006 03:30 PM

With crap like Greenday and MCR being considered the top rock music, and equally crappy bands like Avenged Sevenfold being considered the non-mainstream "saviors" of rock, yes, real rock is dead. But there's still time to resussicate it!

swim 09-29-2006 05:20 PM

ahem Tool-10,000 Days sold over a million copies.

Piss Me Off 09-30-2006 01:14 AM

There are rock bands, some good some bad, thriving everywhere. What the hell constitutes a genre being dead anyway?

MURDER JUNKIE 09-30-2006 01:24 AM

There are REAL rock bands however the buying public is no longer interested and neither are the record companies. The real cash cows are modern country and adult contemporary, rock and roll records rate relatively low on a major label's earnings. Rock and roll records have a tendancy to need major marketing buzz because the target audience is so fickle, in short it just costs more money to make a rock and roll record.

Yes, I still call them records :(

PUNGENT 10-02-2006 05:07 AM

Rock will only be dead if we stop listening to it and if we like something we hear we will listen to it. I will always buy the next metallica album in the slightest hope that they remember where they came from and what really made them who they are and we all know it was the first 4 albums before they become known in the rock genre. Metal and rock will never die as long as fans stay true to what they enjoy listening to.


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