Is real rock dead???

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 08-13-2014, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Everyone all of a sudden pretending they are too good for POD when I bet they were rocking out to a few of their singles in 2000.

I won't pretend that I didn't. I won't pretend that there are still some songs of theirs I'll still listen to. But they're not a band I seek out. They got so boring...

djchameleon · 08-13-2014, 01:52 AM

Yeah they had a few decent songs but I don't remember ever listening to a full album from them. It was back in my singles only listening days.

The Batlord · 08-13-2014, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Everyone all of a sudden pretending they are too good for POD when I bet they were rocking out to a few of their singles in 2000.

"Rock the Party" was kind of fun when I was in middle school (just listened to it again out of curiosity, and its charms have not aged well at all), but even back then I hated every other song they ever put out. "Youth of the Nation" to this day is one of my most loathed songs of all time. Hated it the first time I heard it, and yet for some reason it was all over the radio for months and months. God I hate that ****ing song.

Overcast · 08-13-2014, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Everyone all of a sudden pretending they are too good for POD when I bet they were rocking out to a few of their singles in 2000.

WE ARE WE ARE
THE YOUTH OF THE NATIONNNN

Who still listens to POD though like seriously

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 08-13-2014, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

"Rock the Party" was kind of fun when I was in middle school (just listened to it again out of curiosity, and its charms have not aged well at all), but even back then I hated every other song they ever put out. "Youth of the Nation" to this day is one of my most loathed songs of all time. Hated it the first time I heard it, and yet for some reason it was all over the radio for months and months. God I hate that ****ing song.

It's popularity was more based around the subject matter that the song covered. It was a fairly heavy themed track, lyrically. You will most likely disagree. But lyrically, Youth Of The Nation is still a better written song than a lot of songs some Rock groups are putting out now. Got a lot of stuff themed around women, sex, boozing it up, just real vain or shallow subject matter instead of actually having something to say.

All in all though. POD has never stood out for me, but sometimes lyrically, Sonny Sandoval isn't half bad.

The Batlord · 08-13-2014, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

It's popularity was more based around the subject matter that the song covered. It was a fairly heavy themed track, lyrically. You will most likely disagree. But lyrically, Youth Of The Nation is still a better written song than a lot of songs some Rock groups are putting out now. Got a lot of stuff themed around women, sex, boozing it up, just real vain or shallow subject matter instead of actually having something to say.

All in all though. POD has never stood out for me, but sometimes lyrically, Sonny Sandoval isn't half bad.

A song about sad things happening to sad teenagers is about as original as a sad teenager. There was nothing notable about the lyrics to that song. It used the same basic message (youth = sad), with the same whiny tone that ****ty radio bands had been overusing since Nirvana. Just because your song is wheepy and "dark" doesn't make your lyrics better than songs about partying and booze. **** that song.

djchameleon · 08-13-2014, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

A song about sad things happening to sad teenagers is about as original as a sad teenager. There was nothing notable about the lyrics to that song. It used the same basic message (youth = sad), with the same whiny tone that ****ty radio bands had been overusing since Nirvana. Just because your song is wheepy and "dark" doesn't make your lyrics better than songs about partying and booze. **** that song.

Didn't the song hit big because of school shootings being big around that time?

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 08-13-2014, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

A song about sad things happening to sad teenagers is about as original as a sad teenager. There was nothing notable about the lyrics to that song. It used the same basic message (youth = sad), with the same whiny tone that ****ty radio bands had been overusing since Nirvana. Just because your song is wheepy and "dark" doesn't make your lyrics better than songs about partying and booze. **** that song.

Man, I think your picture you use here makes it hard for me to take you seriously...the Joker keeps looking at me like he wants to eat my eyes.

Youth Of The Nation was not the first song written about teen suicide, or suicide in general, or school shootings, or just shootings in general. I could write the same song. You could probably write the same song. But I won't say the lyrics were garbage just because the topic they covered was something covered numerous times already, dark or sad, whatever...

You know, it's something so common these days too. There's an individual that doesn't like some run of the mill band, so they arrogantly or blindly say that everything about them is garbage. That view is so closed minded man. POD wasn't this groundbreaking band at any point of their career, but they had popularity and to some extent, they still do. But I cannot bring myself to say that everything about that band is garbage. Those people in that band could most likely go out and play other types of music too. POD is a rock band. So then people by default will preach that it's the only kind of music they can play. I just really doubt that they're not capable of doing something else.

But again. I've never been all that fond of POD. Never will be. Their music just doesn't have enough appeal.

By the way. Not calling your arrogant either. Generalized statement.

Black Francis · 08-13-2014, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

Black Francis...

I agree with your post. But I dislike using terms or ways of sayings such as 'real rock isn't dead' because, well Rock music is Rock music. I get that you used the term to more or less address the Rock you like or think is the good Rock music. So why not just say that instead of 'real rock'? Alright. I'm done being nit picky haha.

I was mainly addressing the OP and since to my knowledge 'Real Rock' isn't really a genre i tried to focus on what era of rock ppl call 'Real Rock'

like i said, my fav era in music was the grunge movement of the 90's, but notice i called it grunge not "Real Rock" (wthvr that means)

My main problem with this thread is the guy didn't say "This is my fav era of rock" he just basically stated what he likes is real rock and anything outside of that isn't.

and to top it off the guy didn't really explain himself properly cause this isn't the first time ive heard this kinda argument but this time it was really phrased poorly.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 08-13-2014, 08:45 AM

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I was mainly addressing the OP and since to my knowledge 'Real Rock' isn't really a genre i tried to focus on what era of rock ppl call 'Real Rock'

like i said, my fav era in music was the grunge movement of the 90's, but notice i called it grunge not "Real Rock" (wthvr that means)

My main problem with this thread is the guy didn't say "This is my fav era of rock" he just basically stated what he likes is real rock and anything outside of that isn't.

and to top it off the guy didn't really explain himself properly cause this isn't the first time ive heard this kinda argument but this time it was really phrased poorly.

This right here that you've said was more or less my initial thought of the OP or thread in general. The term 'real rock' is ridiculous and means nothing to me. There's no such thing...

I guess it is pretty much like you describe. If 'real rock' had to be anything, well it's simply defined by what the individual considers the good Rock music, and not much more beyond that. Even so. The term is ridiculous.