But RAR did you not just say before that it's completely grounded in hip-hop? Then why the hell would it be called NU-alternative? Alternative have their roots in rock and metal, not in rap and hip-hop and it's not true saying that anyway because in alot of hip-hop they rarely use instruments that are used in rock/metal eg:guitars, drums etc where Slipknot clearly do use these things as well with very similar vocals to most metal (Besides the smooth flow of rhyming).

That's just my 2 cents

Not relevant.
RAR, why did you argue about this so long?
You tried too hard to classify the genres when the basic purpose was to say who had the best scream.
Just because metal is in the thread description doesn't mean a 2 page argument on what bands classify has to be made.
Edit: I'm not taking a side because StoneMagnet perpetuated it, but it wasn't relevant to the thread.

It's relevant to what I was quoting.

This Just In:

WHO CARES????

Snickers.

I'll sum what i was saying up before i go to bed

1. Nu-Metal or whatever, is grounded in hip-hop. But calling it hip-hop doesn't really work. I don't really know what to call it but garbage.

2. Snickers, shut up, it was a healthy debate. You're turning into EDGE

3. MJ is correct

Right.
StoneMagnet, even if it was relevant to your quote, it's not part of the healthy debate to debate what it is to be a bigot.
RAR, I'm not being like Edge, arguing genres in this type of thread just looks stupid when you have quote point 1 pt. 2 pt. 3 running down a page.
Just sayin'

I would actually consider grunge to be a genre. But as far as all of the discussion about labels, there are too many currently. Rock probably has 200 sub-genres, along with metal, alternative, etc. Tool is usualy labeled Progressive/Alternative Metal. AIC...in the 90's....was labeled as Grunge/Metal.
Music evolves. People may not like it, and I can think of alot I don't like, but what is currently fitting into one genre, can change over time.
I think we can all agree that the bands being talked about, are some of the greatest.

Note: (No one has to reply saying something about my 200 genres comment. I am merely exaggerating to get my point across.)

Pantera not a metal band now?

:laughing:

Honestly ... Kids today

A sh!tty metal band,but nonetheless a metal band