Dio (singer, metal, rock, single, album)

jr. · 05-24-2006, 08:33 AM

Sabbath could have put anyone on the mike after Ozzy left, and the record sales still would have plummetted, so the 'Dio killed Sabbath' argument is moot.

Ozzy leaving killed Sabbath, not Dio arriving.

There are very few bands who enjoyed truly great success once their original frontman left.

Van Halen continued to sell a phenomenal amount of records with Sammy Hagar, but to a different audience.

AC/DC is probably the most successful rock band of all time, in terms of record sales after a lead singer changed. Anyone besides me old enough to remember when Bon Scott died? Back in Black, as far as I'm concerned, will never be topped, as far as 'comeback albums.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-24-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jr.

Sabbath could have put anyone on the mike after Ozzy left, and the record sales still would have plummetted, so the 'Dio killed Sabbath' argument is moot.

Ozzy leaving killed Sabbath, not Dio arriving.

They were in free-fall long before Ozzy left. I don`t see how anyone in their right mind could think that Technical Ecstacy & Never Say Die are better than Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules. If anything Dio joining them gave them a resurgance in popularity as short lived as it was.

PostPsychosis · 05-24-2006, 11:34 AM

Technicla Extasy, Never Say Die, Mob Rules and Heaven and Hell are all ****e IMO. But their first 6 albums are some of the best records ever made. It is obvious something was going wrong with Sabbath, and Dio didn't hurt them or help them. The only area where he hurts them is when you hear a live version of him singing Paranoid or some **** like that on the radio, ugh.

Stone Magnet · 05-24-2006, 11:38 AM

I like Never Say Die and Technical Ecstacy...

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-24-2006, 11:40 AM

freak

Stone Magnet · 05-24-2006, 11:44 AM

They are good albums if you don't compare them to any of Sabbath's earlier material...

I like Devo too though, so maybe I am just a freak.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-24-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stone Magnet

They are good albums if you don't compare them to any of Sabbath's earlier material.

Well thats probably the reason why I rate Heaven & Hell & Mob Rules , I`d not heard any of the Ozzy stuff when I heard those.

Cheese · 05-25-2006, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Well thats probably the reason why I rate Heaven & Hell & Mob Rules , I`d not heard any of the Ozzy stuff when I heard those.

I rate them and I'd heard all the Ozzy stuff before. Even Dehumanizer isn't a bad album IMO.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-25-2006, 03:31 AM

Well I was listening to Live Evil just the other day.

I actually think Dio sings NIB much better than Ozzy ever did.

Wild7Dustr · 05-26-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

They were in free-fall long before Ozzy left. I don`t see how anyone in their right mind could think that Technical Ecstacy & Never Say Die are better than Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules. If anything Dio joining them gave them a resurgance in popularity as short lived as it was.

Exactly, I totally agree!!!Earlier on I put many bands that I own all of their albums on and almost put Black Sabbath.I remembered that I did not own those disaster albums (T.E. and N.S.D.), so I couldn't put Black Sabbath up as one of those all album artists.

Dio did an incredible job on those Black Sabbath albums too...
...Mob Rules is probally my favorite of the 2 as a whole, but Heaven And Hell is also a great album that everybody seems to love and/or favor.If Dio did anything to Black Sabbath, it was to carry on the tradition of metal and everything he did to the band was great from start to finish.Need I say more...lol?

05-24-2006, 08:33 AM	#51 (permalink)
jr. Seeker of Peace Join Date: May 2005 Location: Newark, De. Posts: 341	Sabbath could have put anyone on the mike after Ozzy left, and the record sales still would have plummetted, so the 'Dio killed Sabbath' argument is moot. Ozzy leaving killed Sabbath, not Dio arriving. There are very few bands who enjoyed truly great success once their original frontman left. Van Halen continued to sell a phenomenal amount of records with Sammy Hagar, but to a different audience. AC/DC is probably the most successful rock band of all time, in terms of record sales after a lead singer changed. Anyone besides me old enough to remember when Bon Scott died? Back in Black, as far as I'm concerned, will never be topped, as far as 'comeback albums. __________________ Be strong then, and enter into your own body; there you have a solid place for your feet. ~ Kabir

05-24-2006, 11:34 AM	#53 (permalink)
PostPsychosis Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 172	Technicla Extasy, Never Say Die, Mob Rules and Heaven and Hell are all **e IMO. But their first 6 albums are some of the best records ever made. It is obvious something was going wrong with Sabbath, and Dio didn't hurt them or help them. The only area where he hurts them is when you hear a live version of him singing Paranoid or some ** like that on the radio, ugh. __________________ Descending from Heaven The Angel Sworn to bring them down The Hunter, The Thunder The Wrath of Heavens Coming Down

05-24-2006, 11:38 AM	#54 (permalink)
Stone Magnet Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Keswick, Ontario Posts: 731	I like Never Say Die and Technical Ecstacy... __________________ Lock to field screen, row the ocean onto sentient ground. New rites of a Vedic sun to attend the blue horizon. Prevails flight resplendent, sails the shrine effulgent windship. Stillness breathes apex supreme - I walk toward the mountain. Crowns the sovereic rite to freedom. Shored the origin forms to a ground accede. Axiom core of the light shrine flight to shining. Glows serene to attenuate the space and time.

05-24-2006, 11:40 AM	#55 (permalink)
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05-24-2006, 11:44 AM	#56 (permalink)
Stone Magnet Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Keswick, Ontario Posts: 731	They are good albums if you don't compare them to any of Sabbath's earlier material... I like Devo too though, so maybe I am just a freak. __________________ Lock to field screen, row the ocean onto sentient ground. New rites of a Vedic sun to attend the blue horizon. Prevails flight resplendent, sails the shrine effulgent windship. Stillness breathes apex supreme - I walk toward the mountain. Crowns the sovereic rite to freedom. Shored the origin forms to a ground accede. Axiom core of the light shrine flight to shining. Glows serene to attenuate the space and time.

05-25-2006, 03:31 AM	#59 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Well I was listening to Live Evil just the other day. I actually think Dio sings NIB much better than Ozzy ever did. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.