Alice in Chains...

scottsy · 10-30-2009, 11:31 AM

Some say the vocal similarities are due to Cantrell's backing vocals, at least in part, as well...

Phillyboy · 11-01-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by scottsy

Some say the vocal similarities are due to Cantrell's backing vocals, at least in part, as well...

You mean between Layne and William? If you do, I would agree because alot people could not tell them apart ( Layne and Jerry ) . But I do find Jerry taking more of a lead singing role and William's voice does sound distinctly like Stayley's. It's bothering me less and less each time I listen to the record, which I never thought would happen.

scottsy · 11-01-2009, 11:51 AM

Saw the video of Check My Brain last night and was very impressed overall... the song, the presentation of the band, everything. I actually felt almost as happy as I did in the early nineties when I was discovering a whole slew of awesome new bands.

nss26 · 01-05-2010, 07:44 PM

Harmonies may very well be my favorite part of music. But when they're as close together as they are in whatever key they're in, Staley and Cantrell t
can really bring out what they're saying by capturing your ear. Their harmonies are easily my favorite parts of their music.

~~hissundaygirl09.~~ · 03-12-2010, 05:01 PM

they are great :]

scottsy · 03-13-2010, 05:42 PM

I'm definitely liking the new incarnation of the band more and more.... I heard another recent track by them which i actually found really impressive... I could wind up buying the new album and everything, whereas I wouldn't have even considered it before...

pnerps · 03-14-2010, 05:11 AM

AiC is my favorite band by far. I'm not sure why but, to me, when Layne's voice wraps its painfully beautiful self around the band's lyrics, I find myself clinging to every word like they're the only things in this world that accurately convey how I feel. Both Layne and Jerry wrote songs that aren't far from poetic in nature. And the harmonies? God, are they amazing. I love every single song of theirs and I feel as if no other band even compares. That's my opinion of course, but I honestly feel as if they were, in an agreeable sense, the last wave of honest and pure music that we're every going to be lucky enough to have caress our ears.

Examples of their lyrics;

from 'Hate to Feel'

"Stare at me with empty eyes and
Point your words at me
Mirror on the wall will show you
What you're scared to see"

from 'Angry Chair'

"Loneliness is not a phase
Field of pain is where I graze
Serenity is far away

Saw my reflection and cried, hey
So little hope that I died, oh
Feed me your lies, open wide, hey
Weight of my heart, not the size, oh"

from 'God Am'

"Dear God, how have you been then?
I'm not fine, **** pretending
All of this death your sending
Best throw some free heart mending
Invite you in my heart, then
When done, my sins forgiven?
This God of mine relaxes
World dies I still pay taxes"

from 'A Little Bitter'

"How the mind does shout for rest
When the bodies shaken, yeah
Oh the tightness in my chest
Still your leaves I'm raking

Lord is this a test
Was it fun creating, yeah?
My god's a little sick
And he wants me crazy"

I mean, I could go on, but that'd just be over exertion. They are intensely diverse as well. 'We Die Young' to 'Don't Follow' to 'I Know Somethin' (Bout You)' to 'Nutshell' to 'Rotten Apple' to 'Love, Hate, Love' to freakin' 'Real Thing'. They're all far from similar and are all well written pieces.

Now, this is where I start to sound like a fanboy lunatic to most people, but these observations are not unfounded or baselss. AiC created modern day rock. Godsmack, Creed, and Candelbox are or were regarded as immensely talented when they hit the scene (sadly). For starters, 'God Smack' is the name of an Alice in Chains song, as already mentioned. Sully whateverisuglyfaceisnamed, like Creed's ***gy singer of whose name I would say I forgot had I actually known it in the first place, of Godsmack makes an obvious attempt to sound like Layne in everything he does. It's like they said, "Yo, guys, I got this plan to get us rich off our asses. Let's take some songs by Alice in Chains and just like, you know, make them heavier and take out all of that dynamic bull****. Americans don't appreicate it anyway." And Candlebox? Give me a ****ing break, they are a direct ****ing rip off.

Show a picture of Kurt Cobain to anyone from the ages of 13 to 34 and they will recognize it. Show them a picture of Layne Staley and no one will know. Hardly anyone gave Layne or the rest of AiC the credit they, especially Layne, deserved. I mean, for ****'s sake, at the Grammy's following Layne's death, where AiC actually had a song nominated, Layne wasn't even on the God damn R.I.P. slide-show of artists who had passed away that year. How horrible is that? Layne had friends all around who appreciated, and still do, his talent, but no one in the mainstream gave a ****. He wasn't the pretty, media friendly face of Kurt. Kurt was a crybaby and he made it known so. He was painted to be this broken, beaten, and defeated idol whose music was oh-so innovative and different. Then when he shot himself, it was like he was some sort of damn martyr who was in so much emotional pain that he couldn't possibly bare to live another day. The media portrayal of Layne:

('Man in the Box' playing in a bar)
AiC Fan: Dude, Layne has such a good voice.
Average moron:Who?
AiC Fan: Uh, Layne Staley. He's got a really good voice.
Average moron: ...
AiC Fan: Er, the singer of this song...
Average moron: Ohh, that heroin junky, right? Yeah, I heard their tour was canceled because of his addiction. That's so gross, why does he do that stuff? Man, he should just stop doing heroin.
AiC Fan: BOOOM FALCON PAUUUNNNCCCHH UR SOOOO DED NAO U *** GO DIE IN A FIRE I HATE U BOOOM BOOOOOMMMM KAMEHAMEHAAA BOOM U *** GO DIE HOMO STUPID ****

Yep.

ahaspositive · 03-15-2010, 01:09 PM

I've been listening to Alice for as long as I can remember. I've been to 3-4 of their concerts. They are great

SGR · 03-19-2010, 10:27 PM

I just went to one of their concerts in Boston, MA. Man was it friggin awesome! I didn't expect for them to play "Sickman," "Dirt," or "We Die Young" but they did! Unfortunately, they didn't play "Heaven Beside You."

Some AiC songs I think they should consider playing live in the future:
"God Am"
"Sludge Factory"
"God Smack"
"Put You Down"
"Over Now" (That is the DEFINITIVE AiC closing song/but Would's okay too)
"Sea Of Sorrow"
"Private Hell"
"Am I Inside"
"Grind"

Overall they NEED to play more from the tripod album, I think all they played from that album at the show I attended was "Again." That is a great song and all, but come on! They couldn't replace "Dirt"(song) with "Grind" or something!?

Oh well, it was a great show none the less.

yourbandisavirus · 03-20-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

I bought their box set. Its not bad. I never realized how similar alot of it was, but the hits seem to have a soul of their own. Man in the Box, is diffrent from Would?, which is diffrent from down in a hole, which is diffrent from No Excuses.

The songs that weren't hits...well there we see the templete for staind.

The template for Staind? Well, maybe in the sense that the Staind singer was a fan of AIC and went out into the world with lesser drive, lesser creativity, lesser brilliance, and started a band, yes.

I think Alice in Chain's non-hits are excellent - they had a signature sound.

10-30-2009, 11:31 AM	#321 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	Some say the vocal similarities are due to Cantrell's backing vocals, at least in part, as well... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

11-01-2009, 11:51 AM	#323 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	Saw the video of Check My Brain last night and was very impressed overall... the song, the presentation of the band, everything. I actually felt almost as happy as I did in the early nineties when I was discovering a whole slew of awesome new bands. __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

03-13-2010, 05:42 PM	#326 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	I'm definitely liking the new incarnation of the band more and more.... I heard another recent track by them which i actually found really impressive... I could wind up buying the new album and everything, whereas I wouldn't have even considered it before... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

01-05-2010, 07:44 PM	#324 (permalink)
nss26 Groupie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 12	Harmonies may very well be my favorite part of music. But when they're as close together as they are in whatever key they're in, Staley and Cantrell t can really bring out what they're saying by capturing your ear. Their harmonies are easily my favorite parts of their music.

03-12-2010, 05:01 PM	#325 (permalink)
~~hissundaygirl09.~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: so cal/arizona Posts: 35	they are great :]

03-14-2010, 05:11 AM	#327 (permalink)
pnerps Groupie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 8	AiC is my favorite band by far. I'm not sure why but, to me, when Layne's voice wraps its painfully beautiful self around the band's lyrics, I find myself clinging to every word like they're the only things in this world that accurately convey how I feel. Both Layne and Jerry wrote songs that aren't far from poetic in nature. And the harmonies? God, are they amazing. I love every single song of theirs and I feel as if no other band even compares. That's my opinion of course, but I honestly feel as if they were, in an agreeable sense, the last wave of honest and pure music that we're every going to be lucky enough to have caress our ears. Examples of their lyrics; from 'Hate to Feel' "Stare at me with empty eyes and Point your words at me Mirror on the wall will show you What you're scared to see" from 'Angry Chair' "Loneliness is not a phase Field of pain is where I graze Serenity is far away Saw my reflection and cried, hey So little hope that I died, oh Feed me your lies, open wide, hey Weight of my heart, not the size, oh" from 'God Am' "Dear God, how have you been then? I'm not fine, ** pretending All of this death your sending Best throw some free heart mending Invite you in my heart, then When done, my sins forgiven? This God of mine relaxes World dies I still pay taxes" from 'A Little Bitter' "How the mind does shout for rest When the bodies shaken, yeah Oh the tightness in my chest Still your leaves I'm raking Lord is this a test Was it fun creating, yeah? My god's a little sick And he wants me crazy" I mean, I could go on, but that'd just be over exertion. They are intensely diverse as well. 'We Die Young' to 'Don't Follow' to 'I Know Somethin' (Bout You)' to 'Nutshell' to 'Rotten Apple' to 'Love, Hate, Love' to freakin' 'Real Thing'. They're all far from similar and are all well written pieces. Now, this is where I start to sound like a fanboy lunatic to most people, but these observations are not unfounded or baselss. AiC created modern day rock. Godsmack, Creed, and Candelbox are or were regarded as immensely talented when they hit the scene (sadly). For starters, 'God Smack' is the name of an Alice in Chains song, as already mentioned. Sully whateverisuglyfaceisnamed, like Creed's gy singer of whose name I would say I forgot had I actually known it in the first place, of Godsmack makes an obvious attempt to sound like Layne in everything he does. It's like they said, "Yo, guys, I got this plan to get us rich off our asses. Let's take some songs by Alice in Chains and just like, you know, make them heavier and take out all of that dynamic bull*. Americans don't appreicate it anyway." And Candlebox? Give me a ing break, they are a direct ing rip off. Show a picture of Kurt Cobain to anyone from the ages of 13 to 34 and they will recognize it. Show them a picture of Layne Staley and no one will know. Hardly anyone gave Layne or the rest of AiC the credit they, especially Layne, deserved. I mean, for 's sake, at the Grammy's following Layne's death, where AiC actually had a song nominated, Layne wasn't even on the God damn R.I.P. slide-show of artists who had passed away that year. How horrible is that? Layne had friends all around who appreciated, and still do, his talent, but no one in the mainstream gave a . He wasn't the pretty, media friendly face of Kurt. Kurt was a crybaby and he made it known so. He was painted to be this broken, beaten, and defeated idol whose music was oh-so innovative and different. Then when he shot himself, it was like he was some sort of damn martyr who was in so much emotional pain that he couldn't possibly bare to live another day. The media portrayal of Layne: ('Man in the Box' playing in a bar) AiC Fan: Dude, Layne has such a good voice. Average moron:Who? AiC Fan: Uh, Layne Staley. He's got a really good voice. Average moron: ... AiC Fan: Er, the singer of this song... Average moron: Ohh, that heroin junky, right? Yeah, I heard their tour was canceled because of his addiction. That's so gross, why does he do that stuff? Man, he should just stop doing heroin. AiC Fan: BOOOM FALCON PAUUUNNNCCCHH UR SOOOO DED NAO U * GO DIE IN A FIRE I HATE U BOOOM BOOOOOMMMM KAMEHAMEHAAA BOOM U * GO DIE HOMO STUPID ** Yep.

03-15-2010, 01:09 PM	#328 (permalink)
ahaspositive Groupie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Easton, MD Posts: 6	I've been listening to Alice for as long as I can remember. I've been to 3-4 of their concerts. They are great

03-19-2010, 10:27 PM	#329 (permalink)
SGR No Ice In My Bourbon Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: /dev/null Posts: 4,327	I just went to one of their concerts in Boston, MA. Man was it friggin awesome! I didn't expect for them to play "Sickman," "Dirt," or "We Die Young" but they did! Unfortunately, they didn't play "Heaven Beside You." Some AiC songs I think they should consider playing live in the future: "God Am" "Sludge Factory" "God Smack" "Put You Down" "Over Now" (That is the DEFINITIVE AiC closing song/but Would's okay too) "Sea Of Sorrow" "Private Hell" "Am I Inside" "Grind" Overall they NEED to play more from the tripod album, I think all they played from that album at the show I attended was "Again." That is a great song and all, but come on! They couldn't replace "Dirt"(song) with "Grind" or something!? Oh well, it was a great show none the less.