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TheBig3 04-25-2006 07:54 PM

There was a time
 
There was a time when i thought bands like Static-X and Powerman 5000 and Adema and the what not (drowning pool) had their place. Anytime I hear about them coming out with a new CD now (like 3 days grace did) it just seems embarassing to me. Its almost as if their trying to cling onto some last remaining relic of stardom.

Am I the only one who thinks this or am I flowing with the masses here?

swim 04-25-2006 07:58 PM

If what you think is that they put out the same generic crap so that their ignorant fans will throw them money then I'm with you.

Merkaba 04-25-2006 08:05 PM

Yeah I'll jump the bandwagon too. I own 2 PM5K cd's (burnt copies), both are rubbish but back in the day I liked them because they had the best song on Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 music list.

Well at least back then i thought they did, not anymore though.

Kripes 04-25-2006 08:08 PM

I agree with you. Especially on PK5, Aema, and Drowning Pool. But Static-X's newest CD is actually really good.

I'm confused about 3 Days Grace though. I had thought they broke up after one release, but then I hear they are coming to my town. Doesn't matter anyways, they aren't very good at all.

tdoc210 04-25-2006 08:34 PM

i used too think the murdrdolls were good



























for about a day

Soundgardener 04-25-2006 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
Its almost as if their trying to cling onto some last remaining relic of stardom.

Eh.. whatever pays the bills.

swim 04-25-2006 08:39 PM

That's what bothers me is that theyre doing it for money rather than trying to make good music.

mosesandtherubberducky 04-25-2006 08:46 PM

I like Static-X, and (I guess this goes for my area) there aren't that many die-hard fans of them. There is one girl I have spanish with that likes them and I'll ask her what a good song is. But PM5K is silly alone with Drowning Pool.

Blain 04-25-2006 11:40 PM

i still have some of ademas old albums (imsomniacs dream, unstable) but man planet has 1 song that i like, that tornado song **** and horrible how mark chaves isnt in there anymore i say they should just give up because after a year that new *** left

Scarlett O'Hara 04-26-2006 01:57 AM

Ok well I used to like Korn, Linkin Park, Godhead, Disturbed when I was like 14. So yeah, would never go back there.

boo boo 04-26-2006 02:11 AM

Who?

MURDER JUNKIE 04-26-2006 02:21 AM

Korn gets a bad rap, their first album was brilliant. Too bad everything after that sucked and they influenced so many other musical abominations. I still listen to the first album once in a while

DontRunMeOver 04-26-2006 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow
That's what bothers me is that theyre doing it for money rather than trying to make good music.

Unfortunately, a lot of bands DO have to put out music to make money, rather than through a pure to express something or to create something. For many musicians, its pretty much the only marketable skill they have, so what else can you expect them to do? Some musicians have to do it to survive, some have to do it to continue their expensive lifestyles. The simplest thing you can do to combat this is not to buy their music, I suppose. If the music's so bad, then why on earth did anybody buy it? (I'm sure a lot of people did, but why?!)

boo boo 04-26-2006 06:25 AM

Good point, it also asks the question.

How in the hell did Kenny G sell so many albums?

Apparently somebody must actually like Kenny G.

DontRunMeOver 04-26-2006 06:48 AM

Well, you've got to remember, not everybody is young and virile. Kenny G music wasn't exactly marketed for the young, the hip or the music-obsessed. It was (is?) for the elderly, the impotent and those who really enjoy lift-music. There are people out there who like it and who buy it, much as there are people out there who think go-faster stripes make cars go faster, or people who think that comb-overs will fool others. I don't know many of these people on a social level, but they exist!!

Doc.DGAF 04-26-2006 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
Its almost as if their trying to cling onto some last remaining relic of stardom.

Did you concider that maybe their taste in music has changed as much as yours has?

boo boo 04-26-2006 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc.DGAF
Did you concider that maybe their taste in music has changed as much as yours has?

What are you talking about?

Doc.DGAF 04-26-2006 07:26 AM

That maybe the band's idea of what good music is has changed. That maybe they're not "clinging to stardom" just changing how they play to suit themselves.

boo boo 04-26-2006 07:40 AM

Oh...

Well, i heard some new Staind, sounds just like the old Staind.

Doc.DGAF 04-26-2006 08:33 AM

Then Staind may not be one of 'em. I've seen alot of artists change their perspective in music over the years. Alot of top Dons in music have changed styles to stay up with the times or meet a new feeling. Just for example (don't attack me on this) take Disturbed, The Sickness was alot of anger, hate, and hurt passions. Believe was more docile, some anger but more leaning towards making amends. 10,000 Fists is back into that anger but more heavy hearted, there's a kind of sadness to it almost.

Point being, to those who's music is a way of releasing their feelings their music changes with their emotions. To those who's music is about how they live or just modern life and styles in general, the music changes constantly with time.

boo boo 04-26-2006 08:35 AM

Let me get this straight... You say Nirvana have no talent, and you call Disturbed a good band?

Excuse me while i exit the room and ride my

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TheBig3 04-26-2006 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc.DGAF
Did you concider that maybe their taste in music has changed as much as yours has?

No its not that its changed. Im arguing that it hasn't changed, its like Winger trying to release an album in 1993 thats with the same formula as they used in 1987.

And good form Boo Boo, same old insult with brand new flare. I actually laughed.

explosions-in-my-pants 04-26-2006 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Good point, it also asks the question.

How in the hell did Kenny G sell so many albums?

Apparently somebody must actually like Kenny G.

hey i have his christmas album from a few years ago. At first i didn't like it much, it sounded like music for the rich. but then it grew on me. its actaully really relaxing to listen to.. more o during chirstmas. over rated yes. feels classy listening to him. haha!

bush have created too many albums in therer time, and im not sure if there still coming out with them... but i wouldn't buy it now i have like 3 or 4 albums buy them and they sucked to suck after the second one.

boo boo 04-26-2006 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by explosions-in-my-pants
hey i have his christmas album from a few years ago. At first i didn't like it much, it sounded like music for the rich. but then it grew on me. its actaully really relaxing to listen to.. more o during chirstmas. over rated yes. feels classy listening to him. haha!

bush have created too many albums in therer time, and im not sure if there still coming out with them... but i wouldn't buy it now i have like 3 or 4 albums buy them and they sucked to suck after the second one.

If you want quality rich peoples music, listen to Bach instead.

The fat guy in the wig, not the dude from Skid Row. :)

Doc.DGAF 04-26-2006 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Let me get this straight... You say Nirvana have no talent, and you call Disturbed a good band?

Yes I say Nirvana is no talent bull, but when did I say Disturbed was a good band?

explosions-in-my-pants 04-26-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
If you want quality rich peoples music, listen to Bach instead.

The fat guy in the wig, not the dude from Skid Row. :)

no i'd much rather kenny g and only at christmas time..

and if i wanted to watch the guy from skid row on anything it would be gilmour girls.. and i think the guy your talking about is the singer from poison?

boo boo 04-26-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
No its not that its changed. Im arguing that it hasn't changed, its like Winger trying to release an album in 1993 thats with the same formula as they used in 1987.

And good form Boo Boo, same old insult with brand new flare. I actually laughed.

Read some of his statements, you will laugh even more.

boo boo 04-26-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by explosions-in-my-pants
no i'd much rather kenny g and only at christmas time..

and if i wanted to watch the guy from skid row on anything it would be gilmour girls.. and i think the guy your talking about is the singer from poison?

Nah, Bright Michaels is the Poison dude, Sebastion Bach is from Skid Row.

But that's ok, i get hair metal vocalists confused all the time, it is pretty damn hard to tell them apart.

explosions-in-my-pants 04-26-2006 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Nah, Bright Michaels is the Poison dude, Sebastion Bach is from Skid Row.

But that's ok, i get hair metal vocalists confused all the time, it is pretty damn hard to tell them apart.

aww yes. haha but well then he is the same guy in gilmour girls haha.. funny he doesn't get many talking lines..

boo boo 04-26-2006 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc.DGAF
Yes I say Nirvana is no talent bull, but when did I say Disturbed was a good band?

I guess it's when you said they made passionate and relatable music. O_o

Kripes 04-26-2006 10:13 AM

Disturbed are getting better as they go on, unlike so many other nu-metal bands.

boo boo 04-26-2006 10:21 AM

I like Incubus, who i dont consider nu metal but a lot of people do.

I like The Deftones too, but other than that, i hate a lot of nu metal, oddly enough a lot of it is still played on the radio, and i don't even know people who still like those bands.

Kripes 04-26-2006 10:43 AM

Incubus, and nu-metal never crossed with me. I've never even heard them compared as nu-metal.

Doc.DGAF 04-26-2006 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
I guess it's when you said they made passionate and relatable music. O_o

Where the hell was that?

PostPsychosis 04-26-2006 11:21 AM

I used to like all of those nu-metal bands, then one day I turned 13 and saw them for what they are. However Disturbed is trying new things, and Slipknot as much as I HATE them, are also trying to move away from the nu metal stuff.

the_walrus 04-26-2006 01:54 PM

agreed people

boo boo 04-27-2006 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc.DGAF
Where the hell was that?

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Just for example (don't attack me on this) take Disturbed, The Sickness was alot of anger, hate, and hurt passions. Believe was more docile, some anger but more leaning towards making amends. 10,000 Fists is back into that anger but more heavy hearted, there's a kind of sadness to it almost.
It just sounds like something a fan would say. =/

hiu 04-27-2006 02:43 AM

You people are so music retarded and instead of embracing what you listened to you seem to be embarassed about it. You end up missing out on alot of music.

boo boo 04-27-2006 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hiu
You people are so music retarded and instead of embracing what you listened to you seem to be embarassed about it. You end up missing out on alot of music.

Well, people do get picked on for having certain tastes, and everybody picks on someone else for having different tastes weither they realise it or not, it's a bad habit all humans have.

You can simply learn to controll it, or not.

Doc.DGAF 04-27-2006 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
It just sounds like something a fan would say. =/

Ahhh, understood. But that's why I said not to attack me on it. I'm not much of a fan, it was just a handy example (Down With The Sickness was on the radio).


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