Metallica Sucks
 

Why does Metallica suck so bad these days?

St. Anger wasn't that bad of an album. People just compare it to their early work and then dismiss it off as crap instead of listening to the album for what it has.

They don't suck, their new stuff is just alot simpler than there older stuff.

best question ever

True.

But they are nowhere near as good as they were 15 years ago.

its not offten that once big bands always stay on top.. this band fell apart and still came out stronge.. no there not as great, and what crowqill said made loads of sense.. but like with most bands after a while they just lose there touch or change there direction a little bit and fans in stead of looking at it that way, they just think they went from great awesomeness to crap.

Sorry but this had to be said...


in your opinion

Why the hell can't people leave 'tallica alone? Load sucked, and St. Anger really sucked, but at least they are trying something new, even if it is horrible. I think if a band like Metallica can have 2 crappy albums because they tried something new and strayed from the same old same old, then they deserve more respect than a band who releases 10 "good" albums with the same formula over and over again.

cliff burton dying is why metallica fell apart. and they dont suck. theyre different. Their first four albums were metal and, their past four (not counting garage inc because they didnt do any writing) have been rock. lars said that when cliff died they lost their soul. he knew the most music theory and what everyone else knew they pretty much learned from him. as a bassist i really doubt he did most of the writing he did something more important he arranged it. the music metallica is making isnt bad it's just not put in the best order. no band can possibly expected to be the same after they lose a musician as great as cliff.

Actually Cliff did a lot of the writing, especially on MOP. But if Cliff had still been around then I doubt 'tallica would have worked with Bob Rock, who as a producer had a negative effect on their music. Fortunately they aren't having him on the next album.

Cliff was amazing. he was easily my favourite Tallica member and metallica's first three albums are brilliant. I don't like new metallica, but I'm still a big fan as I love the music they made in the past.

Agreed. Bob Rock sucks

Hopefully Rick Ruben can do better, they need someone to get them to do a 180 away from St. Anger.

yes

he worked with johnny cash on unchained and/or (im not sure off the top of my head) american recordings, i really hope it's different from their recent stuff

Excerpts from a recent Metallica interview:

"This time around we've each brought in ideas as we used to - as well as working on some jams we had from two summers ago - and James and I are sorting through our CDs of riffs to put together stuff back as we did in the day."

"The new stuff is much more organic, more old school. It certainly doesn't feel like 'St.Anger' Part Two"

"Six or seven songs are nearly compete, although they don't have the vocals sorted out yet."

"The album is due for release in early 2007."

<In reference to St. Anger>

"It was really important to make that record in the way we did...proving to ourselves that we still had the spark...'St.Anger' was fun but we don't need to make that album again."

<In reference to Bob Rock>

"We had great fun with Bob...but it seemed that after 15 years it was time to try some different things and get a different perspective. As you get older you get set in your ways and get very ****ing spoilt. It was important for us not to get stuck. Rick [Rubin] makes you think about everything - he sees the big picture and has big ideas. It's working out great. We're excited hearing this **** come together!"

Cool. That sounds promising.

Yeah, but i still think their new stuff is mediocre by Metallica standards, you think they would be better now that they replaced Newsted with a better bassist, but nay.

They haven't released an album with Trujillo on bass yet, unless you're talking about their live shows.

Personally, I preferred Jason.

104th'ed. Also, I love Cliff, but if not for Kirk, Metallica wouldn't be as good. That mans a ****ing genius.

The real genius is the man that one day takes Kirk's wah pedal away.

I ask myself the same question.

Acutally he doesn't write much, and as talented as he is, Dave Mustaine would have been way better. Sometime when my imagination wanders I wonder how awesome Metallica would have been if Dave hadn't been fired.

And also Newsted sucked.

He doesn't write words, but he certainly writes all of his solos, and while Mustaine may play better Rhytham than hetfeild theres no way in frozen hell that Dave plays better than Kirk. On what basis are you making this claim, Mega death was at its best when Marty Friedman was ripping solos for them. Lets not mince words sweet pea, Kirk owns Daves ass.

James is an insane rhythm guitarist so why would Dave play. He isn't to great at lead and Kirk seems to fit better with the bands image.

We got two great bands out of it instead of one great band. I'd take Metallica and Megadeth over Metallideth anyday.

/\ That was...ok I see your point, not bad.

Really?... Huh i thought he played on St. Anger.

Well damn, thats the price one pays for not reading the liner notes. :(

I wouldnt say that, individualy, hes very good, compared to all the metal shreders out there, hes pretty average, but being a member of a very popular band he gets much more acclaim than most of his peers, despite how much better they are.

He does have excellent chemistry with the band and he is one of my favorite players, but i dunno about calling him a genius, Hetfield is much more involved with the songwriting, composition, guitar riffs, etc.... And Hammetts solos aren't anything too complex that someone like Hetfield couldnt play them as well, it just gives Hammett something to do.

1. Both Dave and James play rhythm better than Kirk.

2. Dave is better from a technical point of view, both arent super impressive when it comes to their solos, they rely too much on pentatonics, but its easy to say that Kirk is the better soloist.

3. If you want to bring something as irelivent as emotion until this then how would you measure feeling in someones playing?... By what notes they choose to play?... Theres no objective way to measure what sounds good because everyone has a different opinion of what sounds good.

Nah, for some reason, they decided to record the album, THEN find a new bass player. Bob Rock played bass on St. Anger.

^They didn't get serious about finding a new bass player until MTV called about icon hoping it would also be the introduction to their new bass player which is when they started looking. The album was pretty much done by then. I agree with Bob Rock sucking.

Metallica wouldn't have been as good with dave, hence why he was replaced with kurt really earlier on. Everyone seems to sit here and count technical ability and what not on why he would've been better and blah blah blah. But this is just me, when i've been in bands, it was a choice between my friend jon and this kid andy who was better then jon. But we didn't get along as well or play as well with andy as we did jon just because the chemistry and such wasn't there. Everyone seems to ignore that . On another note Robert Trujillo is an insane bassist, I loved his work with suicidal tendencies.

Dude, are you kidding? I find Hammett to be a bit average. But Hetfield is a pretty good rhythm guitarist - and superior to Hammett.

But Dave Mustaine and Jon Schaffer (Iced Earth) are better than both of them :).

well my opinion...Metallica was a great band, but bands try new things they mgiht screw them up, they might be good, like korn wtf is up with twisted transistor...now that is some stupid ****, and with adema gettign rid of mark chaves urgh-.-But hopefully metallica if they release another album will goi back to their old selves

Agreed.

Yeah but lets be honest nobody listens to Iced Earth apart from a few metal kids.

Trad metal

Urgh

thats because now there not drunk all the time. :beer:

Metal Fans have to be the most insular isolated people in all of musicdom. I think sometimes their worse than punk kids in that they like whatever is more culturally "metal". Call me when anyone outside of metal give a **** about Iced Earth. And Mustaine is a cut rate [insert member of Metallica] and always will be because he's not doing his own thing, he's just chasing them trying to outsell them.

Even your beloved Kerry King said, after Mustaine saying he wanted to 'unite the metal community', "I just don't think he's the guy for the job, not after that last album (which was risk), Im all for joining up the metal community but right now, I think Metallica would be a better option, and that says alot."

Theres a reason for him saying that, its because Dave is, and always has been a whiney punk.

Kirk admittedly didn't write any of his solos untill the black album. MEGADETH was not based solely on rhythm or lead, but the combo of both. Dave excells in both fields and all guitarists who have worked with him say he is amazing. Kirk is an excellent lead player as well, but seeing as he didn't even write his best solos, he can't hold a candle to Mustaine, who write nearly 100% of Megadeth.

Kerry King also said that Mustaine is one of the best guitarists hes ever seen. And you talk about metal people being isolated, well how is this our fault? How can you blame metal heads that no one knows Iced Earth. The fault lays with American radio and culture. Blind Guardian and Iced Earth have never made it past the top 100 here in America, but always reach #1 in Europe. And BG's single of A Night of the Opera which is 11 minutes long, was at one point the most played song in Germany.