The Metalcore Discussion Thread (lyrics, hardcore, genre, members, solo)

[zman419]

Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE

A well placed breakdown can be really cool. Unfortunately metalcore bands typically overuse them (this goes for deathcore as well).

Honestly it took me until very recently tto realize how common place breakdowns were. I never played an instrument or was in a band so I always kind of confused some of the drumming for guitar playing or vice versa, thinking they were more talented than they really were.
Ive said this before, but I don't base my fondness for a band solely based on how much talent they have, if I did I wouldn't like A Day To Remember as much as I do. I lot of post/metalcore bands can right some really catching songs when they put their minds to it (ADTR comes to mind again, they may not be the most talented band ever, but they just know how to... errr... improvise I guess you could say. They just know how to use what they can to make a good song)

[LOLPOCALYPSE]

Originally Posted by zman419

Honestly it took me until very recently tto realize how common place breakdowns were. I never played an instrument or was in a band so I always kind of confused some of the drumming for guitar playing or vice versa, thinking they were more talented than they really were.
Ive said this before, but I don't base my fondness for a band solely based on how much talent they have, if I did I wouldn't like A Day To Remember as much as I do. I lot of post/metalcore bands can right some really catching songs when they put their minds to it (ADTR comes to mind again, they may not be the most talented band ever, but they just know how to... errr... improvise I guess you could say. They just know how to use what they can to make a good song)

A band can be talented without being super technical. Your right, it does take some talent to make catchy songs. Talent can be measured by a number of factors, catchiness included. However, IMO, serious talent comes through when a band is able to make challenging, unique music that still engages the listener. These attributes are rarely present in metalcore.

[zman419]

Originally Posted by LOLPOCALYPSE

A band can be talented without being super technical. Your right, it does take some talent to make catchy songs. Talent can be measured by a number of factors, catchiness included. However, IMO, serious talent comes through when a band is able to make challenging, unique music that still engages the listener. These attributes are rarely present in metalcore.

meh it engages me. I will admit it a lot of the metalcore sounds the same, it isn't necessarily a bad thing. It just means a lot of bans have the same goal with their music. I honestly find that a lot of power metal sounds the same, and a lot of power metal songs follow the same formula.
But the thing that bugs me is, why do people who aren't metalcore fans care that bands like Attack Attack and Asking Alexandria exist. It doesn't effect them. There's always gunna be new trash and power metal bands on the scene, and there's always gunna be a market for Iron Maiden to make a new album, so why does it matter?

[VisualNsX]

Agreed about to ADTR but unfortunately they are only good for what they do. They will never evolve to anything bigger because they are already within there means. Unfortunate.