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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop
You miss my point; genres that have genuine artistic movements behind them have an impact beyond their own genre. Thrash bands like Metallica and Slayer didn't just influence future Thrash bands; they influenced punk bands, alternative bands, etc. It's no accident that both Little John and KMFDM have sampled Slayer. Just as Throbbing Gristle's influence wasn't limited to industrial bands, but was a profound influence on groups such as Napalm Death. Or take how gangsta rap has been powerful enough to influence Peaches, of all people.
But, I have yet to read about musicians outside of metalcore being influenced by metalcore. This is my point.
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I do understand your point. However, just because a band may have influenced other bands by no means makes it better. Essentially the only way to "influence" new bands or genres is by causing hybrids to form. You threw KMFDM out there, which is like part thrash part industrial part electronic. The thrash and industrial genres were inspired by another genre but they in of themselves are just mixes of previous genres. There are occasionally full-fledged innovations with the introduction of new technology (electronic) that allows for new sound. I also acknowledge that bands can develop innovative styles, but even these can be linked to a previous band in some way. You must consider time in all of this too. Yes, Metallica did influence a lot of bands, but this was inevitable. The genre was so limiting bands had to branch out. Metallica, much like the bands they influenced, borrowed aspects of music from many other bands, but you can't say they are completely original. No band is completely original, as there is always a source of inspiration. Current bands (in the same way Metallica had) have borrowed aspects from other bands and genres to form their own distinct yet not utterly original style. Every band is essentially a hybrid with its own style. Metallica took metal and sped it up. Voivod combined thrash and prog rock. KMFDM borrowed elements from thrash, electronic, and industrial and did their own thing with it. As time goes on, we run out of possible combinations, and can only contribute different styles (until more advancements in instrumental technology). Now we have things like popcore out there that are the skinniest branch on the music tree in terms of borrowed aspects. So, to say that metalcore bands aren't good because they aren't COMPLETELY BRAND NEW and have yet to heavily influence other music in the short eight year period of their existence is simply untrue. With that logic, Chuck Berry is one of the greatest musicians of all time. EVER. Is that true? IMO NO WAY
You must also remember that musical taste is subjective...