The Metalcore Discussion Thread

[Alfred]

Cancer Bats could be labelled as such but they sound way different from Converge as well as Killswitch Engage. They have lots of southern rock and sludge metal influences as well.

[almauro]

^Did these guys just get cut from the football team? All kidding aside, this sounds like All Shall Perish, which is deathcore done by some straight-edge looking dudes.

[Terrible Lizard]

This hombre related to DarkestHour?

[Alfred]

Originally Posted by Johnny_Rotter

Here's some British metalcore, that's pretty good.

I was expecting some really generic sh*t but that was actually pretty awesome.

[CAPTAIN CAVEMAN]

Originally Posted by Alfred

I was expecting some really generic sh*t but that was actually pretty awesome.

it is really generic shit... funny huh

[Shoe]

I've been skating heavily and that is not at all our digest.
Our digest seems more diverse. Its a lot of stoner music and actually a fairly large amount of indie and hip hop.
No skaters in the area listen to this except the scene beans who come in on a board to the park now and then and make fools of themselves.
Old punk, reggae, hip-hop, indie. Thats what the skaters in our area listen to.
Edit: It seems like a lot of jock *******s are into this now. Scenesters and like not really jocks but kinda jocks... I guess like just the douche bags of society.

[ChrisCata]

For me, it's extremely funny to see how you all (except some) pour out all your bad days in form of hate towards metalcore. Ok, so it's mostly generic. Ok, they have easily planned out songs with basically the same recipe; thats not the point. The point is that the easy recipe is ****ing awesome. Me, for one, simply love the genre metalcore, in all it's extent. As of today, metalcore is one of the widest genres in the "metalworld", ranging from Atreyu, to All that Remains, to As I Lay Dying and back to Avenged Sevenfold. Roughly, about half of all the bands I listen are metalcore bands.

Metalcore, as in the musicianship, is not too complicated. As mentioned before, they use simple, wellknown scales. 0-2-3-5-7-8-10 on a dropped E6 is common, with harmonies on 0-1-2-4-5-7-8 on the A5 and/or D4 (or whatever they are dropped to). But who says it has to be complecated to be catchy? One of my favorite bands nowadays, A Day to Remember, plays music so simple you could teach it to a 14 year old who just started playing (taking skills with beats and tone is already there). Still, they have manager to take the genre metalcore and blend it with hardcore punk and pop. Now; here's what makes metalcore so amazing! Due to it's simplicity, it can be mixed with about anything. Take Maylene and the Sons of Disaster as an example. They've mixed the basic elements of metalcore with southern rock and blues. The result is fantastic. Every Time I Die have done something alike. The mentioned As I Lay Dying have mixed the basic principles of metalcore with the Gothenburg Death Metal, and created a sound which mirrors a mix of In Flames and... well, Parkway Drive perhaps?

Get over yourselves, and accept the fact that metalcore per today is an extremely easygoing genre within punk/metal. Some like it, some don't. It's that easy.

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by ChrisCata

For me, it's extremely funny to see how you all (except some) pour out all your bad days in form of hate towards metalcore. Ok, so it's mostly generic. Ok, they have easily planned out songs with basically the same recipe; thats not the point. The point is that the easy recipe is ****ing awesome. Me, for one, simply love the genre metalcore, in all it's extent. As of today, metalcore is one of the widest genres in the "metalworld", ranging from Atreyu, to All that Remains, to As I Lay Dying and back to Avenged Sevenfold. Roughly, about half of all the bands I listen are metalcore bands.

Metalcore, as in the musicianship, is not too complicated. As mentioned before, they use simple, wellknown scales. 0-2-3-5-7-8-10 on a dropped E6 is common, with harmonies on 0-1-2-4-5-7-8 on the A5 and/or D4 (or whatever they are dropped to). But who says it has to be complecated to be catchy? One of my favorite bands nowadays, A Day to Remember, plays music so simple you could teach it to a 14 year old who just started playing (taking skills with beats and tone is already there). Still, they have manager to take the genre metalcore and blend it with hardcore punk and pop. Now; here's what makes metalcore so amazing! Due to it's simplicity, it can be mixed with about anything. Take Maylene and the Sons of Disaster as an example. They've mixed the basic elements of metalcore with southern rock and blues. The result is fantastic. Every Time I Die have done something alike. The mentioned As I Lay Dying have mixed the basic principles of metalcore with the Gothenburg Death Metal, and created a sound which mirrors a mix of In Flames and... well, Parkway Drive perhaps?

Get over yourselves, and accept the fact that metalcore per today is an extremely easygoing genre within punk/metal. Some like it, some don't. It's that easy.

Lets be honest, as far as metal goes its a pretty poor metal genre, where the majority of the bands don`t really produce much above the average. As UH said it doesn`t have skilled riffs of a true metal band or neither the attitude of hardcore. What is does sound like is a slick packaged melodic death metal combined with hardcore for the masses, its basically took over from Nu-Metal as the in thing!

As you say, a band like As I Lay Dying took the basic principals from the Gothenburg death metal scene and packaged them all into a bland melodic sound for a wider audience, they basically diluted all that was good about the Gothenburg metal scene.

Its not all bad though, as I thought the pre Howard Jones Killswitch Engage albums did have some attitude with Jeese Leach on vocals.

You say half of what you listen to is Metalcore, you need to branch out as there are far more interesting metal genres out there.

[Shoe]

Woah woah son, I was not having a bad day. Just saying that skaters for the most part don't listen to metalcore.
I used to listen to it too don't get me wrong. I just got so bored of it.
Maybe it's catchy. But so is pop. And I can only listen to so much Lady Gaga before it starts to get old. Right?
So it's not like anyone has any direct hate towards it. They just dislike how annoying the scene is. Like the hipster scene. A lot of the people are pretentious and think their music is the only music that matters. Sure that can be in any genre of music, but it seems like metalcore fans try to go the whole mile to prove how "brutal" "harcore" "hxc" "sxe" whatever. And it just is kind of annoying. They think people turn their heads like "Wow! That kid is crazy!" But most of them are just ignored.
Sure, if you like the music that's great.
If youre just in it for the scene then just... Leave me alone I guess.
EDIT: As the guy above me said, there is so much more interesting metal. I mean it's not my music but I can understand why some metal can be loved.
It's just like metalcore is the mainstream garbage of the whole metal genre. It's the Ke$ha of the metal scene.

[Dr_Rez]

Originally Posted by Shoe

They think people turn their heads like "Wow! That kid is crazy!" But most of them are just ignored.

Thats the most accurate sentence in this thread.