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1 | 12 | 57.14% | |
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3 | 1 | 4.76% | |
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5 | 3 | 14.29% | |
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7 | 1 | 4.76% | |
8 | 1 | 4.76% | |
9 | 2 | 9.52% | |
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06-15-2010, 01:04 AM | #121 (permalink) |
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Metalcore sounds too prepackaged to me. It very carefully dissects various elements of extreme metal to give it a wider target range. For a lot of people the growled vocals are an instant turnoff for death and black metal, but if you sprinkle in some clean melodic chorus' every goddamn song then the pussies don't get scared off as quickly. It's a Frankenstein genre, but only using the "best" parts and I think a lot of the individuality gets lost in the transition. Like Engine said, everything besides the vocals feels held back, and in metal the vocals are never the most important part, even with power metal.
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06-15-2010, 09:50 AM | #122 (permalink) |
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I'm not very well versed on this stuff, but I would agree with quite a bit of the recent posts from loathsompete, almauro, and engine. Talking about the new-school melodic stuff, I feel like throwing a clean chorus in between the screamy verses is only a step away from something like I see stars, who basically just put one breakdown in the middle of an otherwise sugary song. Nothing wrong with emo-popness necessarily (I listen to the Anniversary, even), but it always seems incongruous. Plus I'm not big on the way they sing the clean vocals themselves.
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06-15-2010, 11:14 AM | #124 (permalink) |
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I've got nothing against commercialism, I just don't like the contrived nature of basically creating a song that combines elements of extreme metal, with melodic emo/hardcore, that's intended to satisfy many tastes, but artistically is bankrupt. It's liked some F_****ed up manimal mutation running around on "The Island of Dr Moreau" .
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06-15-2010, 12:07 PM | #125 (permalink) |
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I was gonna make a thread asking the same question the OP had, but now I have all the answers I need.
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06-15-2010, 12:56 PM | #126 (permalink) | |
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I don't really care if the bands are commercially profitable or not, I'll be the first to admit that I like bands like Godsmack, In Flames, etc. but I just can't stomach these Frankenstein ripoffs that bastardize an exclusive genre of music that I can honestly say got me through high school. If you like metalcore then that's your prerogative and I'm not the type of person to berate someone for what kind of music they listen to, unless they're spouting out that it's the best thing in the world and everything else sucks, then we've got a problem. That's just my honest opinion on metalcore and why so many metalheads have issues with it. |
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06-15-2010, 01:07 PM | #127 (permalink) |
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The reason I don't like it is perfectly simple.
If I listen to metal I want punishing riffs & for lack of a better term ... heaviness. If I listen to hardcore I want rawness & attitude. Now I don't know much about the genre, only what Darkest Hour forced me to listen to but i'm assuming that it combines the two, hence it's name. Some bands managed to combine the two taking the qualities I enjoy from the two genres, Napalm Death, Electro Hippies & Extreme Noise Terror spring to mind. But from what I have heard of the genre it's far to slickly produced for my liking & sounds more like who can solo the fastest while grunting over generic riffs. Basically it's lacking in everything I look for in hardcore & metal.
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06-15-2010, 07:28 PM | #128 (permalink) |
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So is the abrasive verse/clean chorus a hallmark of this stuff? I don't know enough about the genre.
I definitely have felt the gut "declawed Frankenstein" reaction before, but I acknowledge that everything aims for the mainstream. Really the problem for me is just that I think it sounds funny; it sort of makes me feel like the parts are tacked together. Same reason Ke$ha bugs me so much. |
06-15-2010, 07:38 PM | #130 (permalink) | |
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What (the hell) do you like about those bands? And for the record, I have some metalcore that I do like. Not counting the early Hydra Head scene which I love, I like Buried Inside, Byzantine, and I have a soft spot for Cancer Bats. Then again..are those even considered metalcore?
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