The Band w/ the biggest impact (lyrics, pop, beatles, Kurt Cobain)

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-02-2006, 08:21 PM

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Britpop came about at around the same time as Grunge, if not before it.

The Smiths? The Cure? The Jam ?

boo boo · 02-02-2006, 08:35 PM

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I'll concede that they boosted the popularity of Alt and Grunge, but where has Alt gone since? It's just a marketing term to sell Pop/Rock bands to teenagers now, just like it was then.

Nirvana aren't an influence on any Indie Rock bands I listen to, in fact, the only bands they seem to have influenced were crappy "Alternative" bands such as Nickelback, Hoobastank, etc. You're welcome to find an Indie band that cites Nirvana as an influence, though.

As for boosting the popularity of Indie Rock, they didn't really. Major labels have been signing indie bands for years, and Indie Rock has only recently become big, long after Nirvana's demise. And Britpop? You must be joking. Britpop came about at around the same time as Grunge, if not before it.

Nirvana influenced both The White Stripes and Radiohead in some way, since Jack White and Thom Yorke have both named Nirvana a big influence, also QOTSA.

And did you even read my post?...I didnt say Nirvana helped create britpop for ****s sake, i said they influenced several britpop bands from the 90s and 00s, get it right dumbass.

Indie rock got much popular in the 90s because of Nirvana, and indie bands were getting much more airplay on MTV and radio after Nirvana.

Also, alternative rock isnt really whats hip with most kids today, i dont know what you are talking about.

Expletive Deleted · 02-02-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Nirvana influenced both The White Stripes and Radiohead in some way, since Jack White and Thom Yorke have both named Nirvana a big influence, also QOTSA.

And did you even read my post?...I didnt say Nirvana help create britpop for ****s sake, i said they influenced several britpop bands from the 90s and 00s, get if right dumbass.

Indie rock got much popular in the because of Nirvana, and indie bands were getting much more airplay on MTV and radio after Nirvana.

Also, alternative rock isnt really whats hip with kids today, i dont know what you are talking about.

Yeah, because The White Stripes and Radiohead are so Indie. They're probably two of the biggest bands on the planet right now, and they've both been signed to major labels for quite some time now.

You said, and this I quote because I'm looking right at it, "...and being a huge influence on many... britpop bands..." Now it's "they influenced several Britpop bands from the 90s and 00s"? Which Britpop bands did they even influence, exactly?

Indie bands still don't get much play on MTV. Name one indie band in regular rotation on MTV right now. With bands like Modest Mouse and Death Cab it may seem like they are, but those bands are signed to major labels, and have the labels' full support behind them.

Do you even know what you're saying? First they're boosting the popularity of Alternative, which is STILL big with "the kids" these days, now Alternative isn't big at all?

TheBig3 · 02-02-2006, 08:44 PM

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David bowie..

Led Zeppelin.. they were the FIRST band to be considered metal.. (even if now there just called classic rock, back in 69, on into the 70's they were called metal.. and hardcore Rock N' Roll.)

Me thinks you've been hangin out here too long. Here's some math; if NME said it, its wrong.

explosions-in-my-pants · 02-02-2006, 09:14 PM

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Me thinks you've been hangin out here too long. Here's some math; if NME said it, its wrong.

i have no idea what your talking about

boo boo · 02-02-2006, 09:16 PM

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Yeah, because The White Stripes and Radiohead are so Indie. They're probably two of the biggest bands on the planet right now, and they've both been signed to major labels for quite some time now.

You said, and this I quote because I'm looking right at it, "...and being a huge influence on many... britpop bands..." Now it's "they influenced several Britpop bands from the 90s and 00s"? Which Britpop bands did they even influence, exactly?

Indie bands still don't get much play on MTV. Name one indie band in regular rotation on MTV right now. With bands like Modest Mouse and Death Cab it may seem like they are, but those bands are signed to major labels, and have the labels' full support behind them.

Do you even know what you're saying? First they're boosting the popularity of Alternative, which is STILL big with "the kids" these days, now Alternative isn't big at all?

You're a ****ing idiot, White Stripes and Radiohead BEGAN on a indie label, they started out as indie bands and became huge later on.

Point is, alternative rock would not have the same kind of lasting impact throughout the 90s if it were not for Nirvana, alternative rock and indie rock had become less mainstream in the last 2 or so years, because of the growing popularity of punk rock, metal, emo, etc...But without Nirvana alternative rocks popularity would have died out a lot sooner, Nirvana were THE BAND of the 90s, not my opinion, its a fact, theres no getting around it.

The Shins and Arcade Fire had a few videos played on MTV.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 02-02-2006, 09:42 PM

Why arn't the Stones on that list, like them or not they were influencial.

Expletive Deleted · 02-02-2006, 10:05 PM

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You're a ****ing idiot, White Stripes and Radiohead BEGAN on a indie label, they started out as indie bands and became huge later on.

Point is, alternative rock would not have the same kind of lasting impact throughout the 90s if it were not for Nirvana, alternative rock and indie rock had become less mainstream in the last 2 or so years, because of the growing popularity of punk rock, metal, emo, etc...But without Nirvana alternative rocks popularity would have died out a lot sooner, Nirvana were THE BAND of the 90s, not my opinion, its a fact, theres no getting around it.

The Shins and Arcade Fire had a few videos played on MTV.

You really don't know shit about indie music, do you?

boo boo · 02-02-2006, 10:12 PM

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You really don't know shit about indie music, do you?

Great response.

Seriously, you really pwned me there, how could i ever make a comeback afer that witty and brillant remark??

You dont know anything about songwriting, if you consider Cobain a horrible songwriter, that pretty much speaks for itself...You dont have to think of him as a great songwriter but saying he is horrible is flat out ridiclous, your arguement has had zero credibility simply for that reason.

Im not the biggest indie expert, im a prog guy, one thing i know for certain is that you have a horrible ear for music if you dont notice the other bands that have influenced Nirvanas work other than Pixies.

Expletive Deleted · 02-02-2006, 10:17 PM

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You dont know anything about songwriting, if you consider Cobain a horrible songwriter, that pretty much speaks for itself...You dont have to think of him as a great songwriter but saying he is horrible is flat out ridiclous, your arguement has had zero credibility simply for that reason.

I've said this 3 billion times on this thread (hey look, now I'm being a prankster like Cobain!): KURT COBAIN WROTE BORING, ANGSTY, CLICHE LYRICS FOR "NONCONFORMIST" TEENAGERS.

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Im not the biggest indie expert, im a prog guy, one thing i know for certain is that you have a horrible ear for music if you dont notice the other bands that have influenced Nirvanas work other than Pixies.

Jesus fucking Christ. Now you're just being an ass. Where did I say that Pixies were the ONLY band that influenced Nirvana? Nowhere. Now stop putting words in my mouth, because you complained when I supposedly did it to you, and you've already done it to me twice.

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